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| Quote ="SRC"As a Barrow fan, I have to be
Good times are just around the corner though.'"
Not unless you get a new stadium.
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| Quote ="brewedindublin"Not seen any info about Coach travel to the Barrow game, is anybody going by Coach or is everyone driving there?'"
I am going by Train
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| I am going by coach,see direct eta website for the phone number, hes quite cheap too
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| Quote ="Alex BP'"Not unless you get a new stadium.'"
It's in hand, and we'll own it.
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| Quote ="SRC"It's in hand, and we'll own it.'"
The first part's good news, the second part's probably untrue and largely irrelevant.
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| Quote ="SRC"It's in hand, and we'll own it.'"
...And then you'll wake up.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"The first part's good news, the second part's probably untrue and largely irrelevant.'"
The second part is totally true and hugely relevant in that we'll still own land and an asset worth millions of pounds and WE have the say on who plays there and when.
Why do people have a problem with other clubs trying to better themselves without selling out?
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Quote ="SRC"The second part is totally true and hugely relevant in that we'll still own land and an asset worth millions of pounds and WE have the say on who plays there and when.
Why do people have a problem with other clubs trying to better themselves without selling out?'"
Nobody has a problem with it.
You're being unlreastic and we're being realistic.
Can provide articles to suggest Barrow are looking to build a new stadium?
According to your Vice chairman, you're not moving from Craven Park:
www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/raiders/ ... ers/column
Take his advice:
Quote The point I am trying to put across is that selling up and going into a new stadium can decrease income while increasing costs and before entertaining such a course it is best to take off the rose-tinted spectacles.
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FWIW, I'd love a Cumbrian team it SL whether it's Barrow/Whitehaven etc.
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Quote ="SRC"The second part is totally true and hugely relevant in that we'll still own land and an asset worth millions of pounds and WE have the say on who plays there and when.
Why do people have a problem with other clubs trying to better themselves without selling out?'"
Nobody has a problem with it.
You're being unlreastic and we're being realistic.
Can provide articles to suggest Barrow are looking to build a new stadium?
According to your Vice chairman, you're not moving from Craven Park:
www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/raiders/ ... ers/column
Take his advice:
Quote The point I am trying to put across is that selling up and going into a new stadium can decrease income while increasing costs and before entertaining such a course it is best to take off the rose-tinted spectacles.
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FWIW, I'd love a Cumbrian team it SL whether it's Barrow/Whitehaven etc.
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| Quote ="SRC"The second part is totally true and hugely relevant in that we'll still own land and an asset worth millions of pounds and WE have the say on who plays there and when.
Why do people have a problem with other clubs trying to better themselves without selling out?'"
If I had a problem would I have called the first part "good news"? Get a grip!
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Quote ="SRC"Plans are taking shape to completely rebuild Craven Park which will take it over and above the SL minimum requirements.
No need to sell off the family silver or buy land. And with the club owning the stadium, they get to keep all matchday profits from the bar etc and keep all profits from advertising etc.
An announcement will be made in the next month or two I believe.
You probably won't believe what I've just stated, so just wait and see.'"
I think I'll just go off what your Vice Chairman stated in that same article, thanks.
www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/raiders/ ... ers/column
Quote What about Craven Park then?
There is the room for it to be developed, including a lot of space at the Walney Road end to enable the Willie Horne stand to be lengthened.
At present there is a large room running the length of the stand which we cannot make use of because of the cost involved in having it made fit for purpose and stairs fitted for access.
The Duke St end and the Popular Side could be demolished. Extra crash barriers would vastly increase the potential ground capacity.
If, and I know it’s a big if, that could be achieved then there is room under the terraces for offices, a gym and hospitality suites (and modern loos) to be included in the plans when they are rebuilt.
For example, the new offices at Emlyn Hughes House could have been built under the Popular Side as part of a rebuilding of Craven Park and that space on Abbey Road used for something else.
Or alternatively, how about Furness College or the University of Cumbria having part of the campus based at Craven Park?
Good business for us ,but also green as it is making best use of land which is already developed.
So, the top and bottom of it is that we do not need to take the risk of moving to a new home and the many millions of pounds that would cost. We only need a few million quid to update and improve what we already have.
Simple as that then.
The potential for the ground, the club and the town is there for all to see. We just need the wherewithal to realise that potential.'"
Bit different to a 'new stadium'.
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Quote ="SRC"Plans are taking shape to completely rebuild Craven Park which will take it over and above the SL minimum requirements.
No need to sell off the family silver or buy land. And with the club owning the stadium, they get to keep all matchday profits from the bar etc and keep all profits from advertising etc.
An announcement will be made in the next month or two I believe.
You probably won't believe what I've just stated, so just wait and see.'"
I think I'll just go off what your Vice Chairman stated in that same article, thanks.
www.nwemail.co.uk/sport/raiders/ ... ers/column
Quote What about Craven Park then?
There is the room for it to be developed, including a lot of space at the Walney Road end to enable the Willie Horne stand to be lengthened.
At present there is a large room running the length of the stand which we cannot make use of because of the cost involved in having it made fit for purpose and stairs fitted for access.
The Duke St end and the Popular Side could be demolished. Extra crash barriers would vastly increase the potential ground capacity.
If, and I know it’s a big if, that could be achieved then there is room under the terraces for offices, a gym and hospitality suites (and modern loos) to be included in the plans when they are rebuilt.
For example, the new offices at Emlyn Hughes House could have been built under the Popular Side as part of a rebuilding of Craven Park and that space on Abbey Road used for something else.
Or alternatively, how about Furness College or the University of Cumbria having part of the campus based at Craven Park?
Good business for us ,but also green as it is making best use of land which is already developed.
So, the top and bottom of it is that we do not need to take the risk of moving to a new home and the many millions of pounds that would cost. We only need a few million quid to update and improve what we already have.
Simple as that then.
The potential for the ground, the club and the town is there for all to see. We just need the wherewithal to realise that potential.'"
Bit different to a 'new stadium'.
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| Got my ticket. They must have sent more out.
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| Quote ="SRC"Whatever.
If you knock down 3 sides of the ground, rebuild them and then treble the size of the current Grandstand, I'd say that's pretty much a new stadium.
Anyway, who gives a t055 as long as it complies with SL standards.'"
But that's not what your vice chairman is saying.
But don't let that get in the way of your little fantasy.
''Whatever!''
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| Well I'm happy anyway.
Just had a call confirming that my 4 tickets are ready for collection at the Huddersfield game.
Thank fook for that. *phew*
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| One minute it's "who gives a toss", next it's war and peace. Wind your neck in - we're not interested.
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| Quote ="SRC"I think you'll find that's EXACTLY what Dave Sear (Barrow Vice-Chairman) was talking about ....
[i"There is the room for it to be developed, including a lot of space at the Walney Road end to enable the Willie Horne stand to be lengthened"
"The Duke St end and the Popular Side could be demolished. Extra crash barriers would vastly increase the potential ground capacity."[/i
Dave Sear along with other members of the BOD post on the Barrow forum, but hey, I'll bow to your greater knowledge of what's going on in Barrow.
I would also like to add the following, which was posted by on the Barrow forum by Keith Nutter ....
[iI was recently co-opted onto the CP2 (Charitable Trust) committee which has been set up to support the parent club. I joined this group at the request of Des and the BoD and over the coming weeks I believe more members will be recruited to enhance the group.
I made it quite clear when I joined that I am predominately interested in only two aspects of the work being undertaken (and there are several initiatives which Jonty spoke about at the Sponsors evening and has posted about on here).
The two aspects I am interested are the club's heritage (which can yield pots of money in grants) and the development of Craven Park (again many grants available). This is because I want to focus on these issues and (hopefully) help to drive them forward.
When I talk about developing Craven Park, I don't mean patching up the attrocious toilets, putting in a tannoy system and replacing the floodlights - I am talking about setting our stall out to completely rebuild the stadium over the coming three or four years.
Preliminary work has established beyond any doubt that the Craven Park 'footprint' can comfortably be developed into a 'state of the art' stadium meeting all the criteria of Super League Europe.
However, these ideas need to be developed and the detail sorted.
In support of these ideas, much work has to be done getting the Council on board, sourcing grants and other funding and this work has begun. CP2 members Jonty, Dave Sear and Jim Tongue have done a lot of ground work already.
I would expect that by the end of this season we will have a clear plan in place to move the ground development forward. Just how long it will take to bring that plan to fruition is anybody's guess but I don't expect it to take too long (maybe three or four years).
For those supporters who believe we should sell Craven Park and build a brand new stadium I would simply say please tell me where the 15 to 20 million pounds needed for such a project would come from. We can achieve the same end product on our current site for a fraction of the cost and far less upheaval.
Whilst people on here do not always agree with my (sometimes barmy) ideas I hope that they know I will always tell the truth and say it as it is. I (and others involved with CP2) have several ideas on how we can take the ground situation forward but until they are finalised I would rather keep my silence. However, I think we should be in a position to formally advise roughly what is planned within two or three months.
Like all the supporters I fully understand we are playing in a tired old ground but I honestly don't believe that selling is an option. You describe the club as being asset rich/cash poor and I understand what you mean. However, every club that has released its assets in recent years (ie sold its ground) and become cash rich has had or is now having problems - Rochdale, Swinton, Oldham, Widnes, to name just four. Wigan too look to be more and more vulnerable in their rented 'home'.
Cash rich is fine until the cash disappears. Renting (for example) a council owned ground would (in my opinion) see the club die a slow (or maybe not so slow) death.
Hopefully, if the CP2 group works as I believe it can then the club will be both asset rich and cash rich within a few years.
As for the franchise bids in three years, that is for the BoD to decide but (and again this is my personal view) I don't think the club will be ready. In six years time I believe we will be in an excellent position to bid.
Back to the topic - it is early days yet for CP2 but I honestly think that this group can play a major part in helping the BoD take this great club forward and assuring its future for generations to come.
I should also make it clear that CP2 is about much more than ground developments. There are major initiatives ongoing (and planned) to promote the game throughout South Cumbria. Jonty and Dave Clark are doing an enormous amount in this area, the benefits of which are enormous. [/i'"
That's just a ridiculously long rambling by some supporter who's last name is 'Nutter'.
Honestly, don't get your hopes up.
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| I had a phone call from the ticket office saying my tickets were ready for collection GREAT, does anybody have contacts in the ticket office know how many more we got from the barrow club because nothing on the offical site has of now.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"I am going by Train'"
Would that not be a bit tricky on a Sunday? Rail repairs are usually being done on Sundays.
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| Quote ="Katrina"Would that not be a bit tricky on a Sunday? Rail repairs are usually being done on Sundays.'"
Not according to National rail
Leave Bolton 11.05 arrive Barrow 13.03
Leave Barrow 18.18 arrive Bolton 20.08
Price £22.20 return
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| How much is it costing on coaches?
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"Not according to National rail
Leave Bolton 11.05 arrive Barrow 13.03
Leave Barrow 18.18 arrive Bolton 20.08
Price £22.20 return'"
Not bad value that
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| So have we got more tickets then?
We're on a waiting list but as far as i know we haven't heard anything from the club.
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