[quote="NickyKiss":c7h1dleh]Stunned Saints only posted 38 points against an amateur team, including only scoring 10 points in the second half. Plenty to work on for Briers with the attack.[/quote:c7h1dleh] I'm naturally wary of St Helens but the signs during pre season aren't promising.

[quote="RobRiches":35oeulkp]Wigan celebrating signing the runts of the litter who didn’t get offered more than a year extension by saints is proper cringe.[/quote:35oeulkp] Is it that time of year already? Day release at Rampton. Your pearls of wisdom have been sorely missed, even if they are about as welcome as a fart in a lift.

[quote="NickyKiss":2gk66xmb]Stunned Saints only posted 38 points against an amateur team, including only scoring 10 points in the second half. Plenty to work on for Briers with the attack.[/quote:2gk66xmb] You can't polish a turd. They are totally reliant on Welsby delivering but he is too in and out for form. When he is 'off' they suffer badly. It's no secret that i don't rate him anyway, a media darling but he can't link with Lomax because he offers nothing and neither did Dodd. They need Sailor to be very good.

[quote="MadDogg":2mwnaxap]I'm naturally wary of St Helens but the signs during pre season aren't promising.[/quote:2mwnaxap] There seems to be some talk that they're 'holding their best back' but I don't buy in to that. Maybe they didn't want to show their hand against Salford, due to that being the first game but there are no excuses for not running the cleaners through an amateur team. They held some players back but you'd expect your reserves (and it was far strong than that) to run up a huge score, even if it was just done due to the difference in fitness levels. To score only 10 points in the 2nd half is incredible really.

Whose going to be doing the inplay kicking for saints? Never been Lomax strong point nor Welsby, I think Sailors more a runner than a kicker. We are blessed to have Harry Smith

[quote="RobRiches":1bhjqzgz]Wigan celebrating signing the runts of the litter who didn’t get offered more than a year extension by saints is proper cringe.[/quote:1bhjqzgz] Really missed you and your excellent analysis of Wigan RL little fella,may it continue How do you think this season will pan out what with Saints being the greatest team of all time, will they win the lot again, oh wait I will re-phrase that ,will they win anything this season. I am really interested on your well educated take on the game

I think saints still have a decent side and will be in the mix for a trophy. I think the majority of the poor form is down to Wellens. He seems to have learned ball all under two decent coaches. His gormless look in post match interviews speaks for itself. I think if he performs badly in the first 10 games he’ll be gone

I think saints still have a decent side and will be in the mix for a trophy. I think the majority of the poor form is down to Wellens. He seems to have learned ball all under two decent coaches. His gormless look in post match interviews speaks for itself. I think if he performs badly in the first 10 games he’ll be gone

I can see Briers being in charge before the half way point

[quote="[Gareth]":1unydhat]I can see Briers being in charge before the half way point[/quote:1unydhat] I don't think there's that much evidence that Briers will be the messiah as an assistant, much less in a head coach role.

Massive test for Saints in their first game v Salford. Following the takeover at the Reds they can field their full squad.

[quote="Father Ted":158tf3y9]Massive test for Saints in their first game v Salford. Following the takeover at the Reds they can field their full squad.[/quote:158tf3y9] Going off some of the pre-season reports over on RV quite a few of Saints first team especially in the forwards have zero or precious few minutes under their belts. Only time will tell if that's a mistake I suppose.

Not denying that I expected us to win by a lot more yesterday and 10 points in the second half against amateurs is p**s poor. However Salford’s result today can also be looked at as a bad one. They weren’t at full strength but had a strong side out and won by less of a margin than we did.

[quote="Stu M":3vcytsyo]Not denying that I expected us to win by a lot more yesterday and 10 points in the second half against amateurs is p**s poor. However Salford’s result today can also be looked at as a bad one. They weren’t at full strength but had a strong side out and won by less of a margin than we did.[/quote:3vcytsyo] Hopefully there is a big attendance for your game next week as its possibly the most intriguing game of the round. Salford fans will likely travel in numbers given their good news.

[quote="MadDogg":kqs64xmi]Hopefully there is a big attendance for your game next week as its possibly the most intriguing game of the round. Salford fans will likely travel in numbers given their good news.[/quote:kqs64xmi] It’s not been ratified yet, Saints could be playing half a Salford team.

[quote="MadDogg":d0hcgz8i]Hopefully there is a big attendance for your game next week as its possibly the most intriguing game of the round. Salford fans will likely travel in numbers given their good news.[/quote:d0hcgz8i] I should’ve clarified that Salford weren’t playing amateurs today but they still won by less of a margin than I would’ve expected. Salford are +14.5 with the bookies which I find staggering and have to say I’ve already bet on. Part of me wonders if the bookies know that maybe the takeover won’t be completely confirmed by next week meaning they won’t be able to play a full team? I’ll keep a close eye on the news before Thursday and cash out if that’s the case. I’d say Wigans game is the game of the round. Big things expected of Leigh and I’m intrigued to see how Armstrong goes. I think he’s a dark horse for the MOS Let’s hope for our sake that Leigh give you a game this time.

[quote="Zig":3cn0id8d]It’s not been ratified yet, Saints could be playing half a Salford team.[/quote:3cn0id8d] Their statement says they’ll have a full squad to choose from.

[quote="Stu M":63f7o83k]Their statement says they’ll have a full squad to choose from.[/quote:63f7o83k] Thank you. That’s what we want to see. So has the deal now been ratified?

[quote="Stu M":1ntpire1]I should’ve clarified that Salford weren’t playing amateurs today but they still won by less of a margin than I would’ve expected. Salford are +14.5 with the bookies which I find staggering and have to say I’ve already bet on. Part of me wonders if the bookies know that maybe the takeover won’t be completely confirmed by next week meaning they won’t be able to play a full team? I’ll keep a close eye on the news before Thursday and cash out if that’s the case. I’d say Wigans game is the game of the round. Big things expected of Leigh and I’m intrigued to see how Armstrong goes. I think he’s a dark horse for the MOS Let’s hope for our sake that Leigh give you a game this time.[/quote:1ntpire1] I got Salford +16.5 and Warrington -6.5 last week, easy double. I wouldn’t call Armstrong a dark horse, everyone I speak to is tipping him. I got him at 33/1 he’s down to about 16s now

[quote="NSW":4cg799oa]I got Salford +16.5 and Warrington -6.5 last week, easy double. I wouldn’t call Armstrong a dark horse, everyone I speak to is tipping him. I got him at 33/1 he’s down to about 16s now[/quote:4cg799oa] Just got on the Salford/Wire double but -10 on Warrington. Well done going early!

[quote="NSW":3n3vn43h]I got Salford +16.5 and Warrington -6.5 last week, easy double. I wouldn’t call Armstrong a dark horse, everyone I speak to is tipping him. I got him at 33/1 he’s down to about 16s now[/quote:3n3vn43h] That’s a great price, well done. I have a feeling Sailor won’t be a million miles away either. May have a dabble on him.

[quote="Stu M":eu4sbkdu]That’s a great price, well done. I have a feeling Sailor won’t be a million miles away either. May have a dabble on him.[/quote:eu4sbkdu] You will need to find some points for Sailor to have a chance. Don't think Saints style of play will do him any favours. If he stays fit I can see Jai Field being in the mix this year

[quote="Stu M":3ukep0ud]That’s a great price, well done. I have a feeling Sailor won’t be a million miles away either. May have a dabble on him.[/quote:3ukep0ud] That will depend on how the Saints pack performs.