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| Quote ="Fujiman"Myers RIP? Must have missed that.'"
He died driving a lorry a few years back. If I recall correctly he was meant to have suffered a heart attack at the wheel. My first Challenge Cup Final was 1991 when he scored after Phil Vievers dropped the ball in the tackle bringing the ball out.
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| If ever there was anyone who could swerve round players at full speed, it's surely the Kiwis' #1 full-back, Roger Tuivasa-Sheck. I have seldom (ever?) seen footwork like his.
DWZ is a pretty decent replacement, and is pretty quick, but I've never heard him described as the quickEST.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"He died driving a lorry a few years back. If I recall correctly he was meant to have suffered a heart attack at the wheel. My first Challenge Cup Final was 1991 when he scored after Phil Vievers dropped the ball in the tackle bringing the ball out.'"
a van it was on the thelwell, had cocaine in his system also.
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| Quote ="The_Enforcer"Offiahs raw speed was a bit over rated IMO. Yes he was very fast but it was how he could swerve around players whilst maintaining full speed that made him such a deadly finisher.
Both [uAndrew Ettinghausen[/u (spelling?) and Kevin Iro ran him down multiple times in International games.
Mark Preston was rapid but didnt have that swerve that Offiah had.
My original post was that the Kiwi fullback is faster and i maintain that. I have never seen anybody cover ground as quickly as he did returning the ball last week.'"
happened once then Offiah skinned him the test after when Schofield put him through, Offiahs raw speed was crazy and could be seen best when he didnt have the ball and he had to chase back. Was like a blur.
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| Quote ="Pieman"a van it was on the thelwell, had cocaine in his system also.'"
IIRC it was a motorway bridge just before Sandbach Services. He crashed into the pillar after collapsing at the wheel.
The incident ended in further tragic circumstances. The accident caused a traffic jam where a young family of six were stopped in a car and were subsequently killed by a speeding lorry only minutes later.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoNvtByqSWI&ab_channel=widneswidnes
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You tube has plenty of RL matches just highlighting how bad our game is at the moment .25 years ago we had loads of stars in our team and so did others. Leeds final when Offiah rounded Tait for 2 tries was a classic Leeds had some stars in their team.
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| Offiah went round players in a way I've never seen before or since - one game vs Widnes he took the ball about 20m in and literally ran around the Leeds backs on our right to score (including John Bentley, who was no slouch). I'd say it was his elusiveness at speed but also his absolute confidence in what he was doing/about to do that made him unique. Right at the tail of his career he played for London vs Leeds in the CC final 1999 (aged 33), way past his best but he scored a try and skinned our fullback with utter ease from a fair way out. What was amazing that the second he got the ball you knew it would be a try despite having to beat the winger and a well-placed fullback.
In terms of pure speed he definitely wasn't the fastest - Phil Ford caught him over a distance at headingley, and he lost that sprint challenge in Australia as well. But there was something about him that made him seem superhumanly quick.
As an aside from that 92 series there's a try scored by Steadman in that 1992 Melbourne test where he showed amazing pace as well. That 92 touring team was easily the best we've sent in the last 40 years.
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| Quote ="BrisbaneRhino"Offiah went round players in a way I've never seen before or since - one game vs Widnes he took the ball about 20m in and literally ran around the Leeds backs on our right to score (including John Bentley, who was no slouch). I'd say it was his elusiveness at speed but also his absolute confidence in what he was doing/about to do that made him unique. Right at the tail of his career he played for London vs Leeds in the CC final 1999 (aged 33), way past his best but he scored a try and skinned our fullback with utter ease from a fair way out. What was amazing that the second he got the ball you knew it would be a try despite having to beat the winger and a well-placed fullback.
In terms of pure speed he definitely wasn't the fastest - Phil Ford caught him over a distance at headingley, and he lost that sprint challenge in Australia as well. But there was something about him that made him seem superhumanly quick.
As an aside from that 92 series there's a try scored by Steadman in that 1992 Melbourne test where he showed amazing pace as well. That 92 touring team was easily the best we've sent in the last 40 years.'"
he slipped in the aus sprint challenge at the start and Phil Ford? Offiah scored 10 tries v Leeds when he was fullback. Skinned him with utter ease.
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| Quote ="MattyB"IIRC it was a motorway bridge just before Sandbach Services. He crashed into the pillar after collapsing at the wheel.
The incident ended in further tragic circumstances. The accident caused a traffic jam where a young family of six were stopped in a car and were subsequently killed by a speeding lorry only minutes later.'" Remember it was quite a big story at the time on the news, Always thought he was a good player
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| Quote ="Pieman"he slipped in the aus sprint challenge at the start and Phil Ford? Offiah scored 10 tries v Leeds when he was fullback. Skinned him with utter ease.'" Was that against Lee Oudenryn?, remember that guy being quick
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| Quote ="The Whiffy Kipper"Was that against Lee Oudenryn?, remember that guy being quick'"
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| Odenryn got a better start, the distance stayed the same after that. In the game Offiah scored twice and Odenryn couldn't catch him.
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| I remember a testimonial game at Central Park, maybe Martin Dermott’s. At half time Offiah had a race against Ade Mafe, 200m Commonwealth Games athlete. Offiah beat him over the length of the pitch. They ran in boots and with a ball in hand.
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| Up until Dwayne Chambers trial game for Castleford I’ve never seen anyone as fast on a rugby pitch.
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| Quote ="Pemps"I remember a testimonial game at Central Park, maybe Martin Dermott’s. At half time Offiah had a race against Ade Mafe, 200m Commonwealth Games athlete. Offiah beat him over the length of the pitch. They ran in boots and with a ball in hand.'"
Yes it was Derm's .
Remember Martin Dermott entering the sprint challenge and doing nothing but muck about at first, was a really fun day.
Truth is nobody will ever be able to prove who was the fastest - the comparison of a player running at full speed and a defender having to try and catch him (often from a standing start or having to turn) is invalid. A yard start will always favour the attacker. Offiah will always be up there as one of the fastest without a doubt but the fastest? No one can truly say.
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| Quote ="exiled Warrior"Yes it was Derm's .
Remember Martin Dermott entering the sprint challenge and doing nothing but muck about at first, was a really fun day.
Truth is nobody will ever be able to prove who was the fastest - the comparison of a player running at full speed and a defender having to try and catch him (often from a standing start or having to turn) is invalid. A yard start will always favour the attacker. Offiah will always be up there as one of the fastest without a doubt but the fastest? No one can truly say.'"
true but the defender is running without a ball in hand so is easier to run and can run more natural. thats when I saw Offiahs proper speed when he chased back, wasnt often but was crazy, crazy pace. Like when Dallas caught Sullivan at the DW.
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| Quote ="exiled Warrior"Yes it was Derm's .
Remember Martin Dermott entering the sprint challenge and doing nothing but muck about at first, was a really fun day.
Truth is nobody will ever be able to prove who was the fastest - the comparison of a player running at full speed and a defender having to try and catch him (often from a standing start or having to turn) is invalid. A yard start will always favour the attacker. Offiah will always be up there as one of the fastest without a doubt but the fastest? No one can truly say.'"
also remember Andy Farrell smashing a coronation street XI at football
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| One winger we had and who wasn't the fastest, became a legend for the club IMHO. But what he could do, was be exceptionally 'quick off the mark'. He was at top speed in one stride.
And another skill he had, to quote Ray French; [i"This feller can sidestep on a tanner"[/i.
John Ferguson was his name.
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| What a player he was!
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| Widnes also had another fast winger ,,, was it brimah Kebbie
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His raw speed wasnt what people make it out to be
He was very fast but not super human fast.
It was the way he could maintain that speed whilst swerving around players and he was actually a very good all round player who was always in the right place at the right time and could read the game brilliantly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-pyGmWKXs
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His raw speed wasnt what people make it out to be
He was very fast but not super human fast.
It was the way he could maintain that speed whilst swerving around players and he was actually a very good all round player who was always in the right place at the right time and could read the game brilliantly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K-pyGmWKXs
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| didnt show the start when Offiah slipped, they conveniently cut that bit out
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| I was at the game and was sat behind the GB dugout . I was chatting to a GB player that I knew well ( he was injured and due to go on the next plane home). He told me that some of the players had money on Oudenryn.
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| Could be an idea for the Magic weekend.
'Fastest Man in Super League'.
Have heats and a final during the weekend. Get a sponsor to put up a prize, the winner gets to wear an appropriate sleeve badge for the next 12 months. Make stars of our players?
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"Could be an idea for the Magic weekend.
'Fastest Man in Super League'.
Have heats and a final during the weekend. Get a sponsor to put up a prize, the winner gets to wear an appropriate sleeve badge for the next 12 months. Make stars of our players?'"
I'd like to watch it, but realistically it's a none-starter. No chance teams would want their wingers doing competitive 100m sprints before a game. Aside from the injury risk and fatigue, it would mess with their preparation before and after games (ie getting there early for the first heat, staying late after the game for later heats when they should be recovering, or allowing the player to travel alone). Teams at that level take this stuff seriously these days. Plus you presumably at some point have players who have played a game running against players who haven't.
Having it before the Grand Final or CC Final might work better, but obviously you would have to omit players from the finalists, and there's a fair chance players will have miraculous surgery or bugger off on holiday/back home to Aus as they did during the Exiles games. Like I say, in a perfect world I'd like to see it, and we should be looking to make stars of them.
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