If we were honestly looking at him for next year, hopefully his performance today will have warned Madge and Lenegan off.

Even regardless of his poor performance today, he's not what we require at Wigan.

It's one of the reasons I don't like Hudds. Everything they've got hasn't been earned. The players are there due to the cap and thier increases in attendances are blown up via their sugar daddy and his cheap tickets.

You always know that if IL leaves Wigan we'd maintain our current level as we've got a good base. Same goes for Wire, Leeds and Saints but not Hudds.

But only Bradford have won it from outside the top 2, and it's only happened once.

Do you think Leeds will finish in the top 2?

You playing 20 mins against 12 men at home and still couldnt take the win.

worrying if i was a hudds fan

Seeing as Mossop's dislocated his shoulder. Anybody know typically how long it can keep a player out for?

Spot on.

He's not the type of player we need and I don't think he's good
enough either.

We've already got a younger/better 6 in Sam and to move Sam from there for Brown is plain stupid.

scored both times when you had 12 men though so not to worry, we took advantage of that.

5 to 6 months

Wigan coach Michael Maguire:
"We got ourselves in a tough position at times throughout that game but they kept working hard for each other and we were lucky enough to come out the right end.

"When we had the ball we knew we had to complete and get down the other end because the other team are quality.

"Every time we got down into their area, we came up with some points so it was pleasing from that point of view but we've got to make sure we don't put ourselves in that position too often."

Huddersfield coach Nathan Brown:
"I think both coaches weren't rapt with their defences but both sides played some good attacking football.

"Defence hasn't been an issue for us for 18 months. Obviously when we get it right we do pretty well but the last two weeks we've been exposed pretty badly in some areas.

"We've just got to work hard and I'm sure we'll rediscover what we need to rediscover and we'll improve."

Have you looked at the stats for teams that win outside the top 2?

Warrington and saints are just as close to 1st (4 points) as they are to 6th (-4 points to hull, with leeds 5 behind) its going to be a battle to stay in that top 3 never mind top 6

well just got back. IMO we were the better team today. We just made it hard for ourselves. Gave silly penalties away at crucial times. Madge will be fuming at the penalty count. Having watched it live its tough to see if all the penalties and sin bins were called for. I thought they made far to much ground on marsh and gouldings wing. We missed gleason. Am chuffed for the win but we need to sort out the penalty count and defence on the fringes. Pryce had some good touches as did tommy and joel. some crunching tackles from the boys spiced things up a little. All in all glad for the 2 points but IMO we are better than that.

It depends on the persons body. Doctors usually say 2-3 months, hopefully Mossops body responds well to treatment.

Ahh, so Brown makes no reference to Mason's off the ball challenge.

Stupid Aussie c*nt.

He's had egg on his face since we beat them at Murrayfield.

And they plaY Warrington next week

It must feel like the "Twilight Zone" for him at the moment!!



Hope Hudds pull off a shock this time though!

Depends on severity, how quickly / easily it is returned to the joint and whether there is any associated ligament damage.

Absolute minimum rehabilitation is 6 weeks, more likely 10-12 weeks, but even that can increase significantly if there is damage to the ligaments / rotator cuff, with the worse case scenario being surgery.

Its a bad injury, as there is also a weakening of the joint which makes reoccurance more likely in the future and should necessitate slow rehabbing via strengthening the rotator cuff to improve stability. So its probably best if he sits for 3 months, with 6 weeks of limited activity and 6 weeks of physical rehabilitation rather than being rushed back.

I knew somebody would know what theyre talking about

Lets hope he is ok and recovers well.

gutted for the lad. He will be back as strong as ever

Gutted for Mossop but it will be a massive opportunity for Farrell and he can handle it IMO. Then we will have him and Hansen back come the business end of the season

When is Hansen looking to return?

Late June.

I cant remember us dropping the ball all game

Before last year no team had won the GF 3 times on the trot, before 2008 no team had won the WCC and grand final in the same season. So the current leeds team have a precident for making history, so I wouldn't be too concerned about that.

To answer your question I think leeds will finish 4th. In which case they'll need to win 2 games to make it to old trafford, 1 away from home. Not an impossible task.

With home advantage Wigan Wire or Saints would put Leeds to the sword in a play off semi

I agree with the original post. One thing I couldn't have stood today was losing to much poorer opposition. Your team made very little field position except from 40:20 kicks and relied on the one-eyed performance of the ref to get down our end of the field - and that's the only reason you stayed in the game.