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Nice to see 4 forwards breaking the 100m mark. Totting up the missed tackle column comes out as 44 which seems pretty high!?
The Burke to hooker experiment is one I don't want to see again. Far too slow and his passing accuracy was dire. Shorrocks had a decent game and could be a good bench option to mix things up if we don't want to go with 4 forwards on the bench. He could either come on for a spell at 9 or come on at 6 with Williams moving to 9.
All in all it was a very low quality, forgettable game but it was good to get the 2 points. I do wonder if SW is being a bit precious about the iPitch and resting players at Widnes has bitten us a few times over the past few seasons. It'll be good to have a few bodies back next week but losing another couple of players last night is a bit worrying. Who plays centre will be interesting if Gells and Sarg are both still out.
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Nice to see 4 forwards breaking the 100m mark. Totting up the missed tackle column comes out as 44 which seems pretty high!?
The Burke to hooker experiment is one I don't want to see again. Far too slow and his passing accuracy was dire. Shorrocks had a decent game and could be a good bench option to mix things up if we don't want to go with 4 forwards on the bench. He could either come on for a spell at 9 or come on at 6 with Williams moving to 9.
All in all it was a very low quality, forgettable game but it was good to get the 2 points. I do wonder if SW is being a bit precious about the iPitch and resting players at Widnes has bitten us a few times over the past few seasons. It'll be good to have a few bodies back next week but losing another couple of players last night is a bit worrying. Who plays centre will be interesting if Gells and Sarg are both still out.
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Ian Millward's forecast on the Sporting Life website was "Widnes to win in a high scoring game". Give the man a goldfish.
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Tautai, Sutton, Charnley and Flower all outstanding.
What's the news on Gelling's injury? Straight swap for Sarge next week?
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Tautai, Sutton, Charnley and Flower all outstanding.
What's the news on Gelling's injury? Straight swap for Sarge next week?'" aggravated his old pectoral injury that he was returning from. No news yet on how serious. |
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| Quote ="Geoff"aggravated his old pectoral injury that he was returning from. No news yet on how serious.'"
The strange part of Gellings injury is he said he'd felt it again at the start of his comeback game against HKR so why was he allowed to play on in that game and then play last night? It sounded like an accident waiting to happen.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The strange part of Gellings injury is he said he'd felt it again at the start of his comeback game against HKR so why was he allowed to play on in that game and then play last night? It sounded like an accident waiting to happen.
On a side note does anybody find it strange that Farrell and Clubb have only just had operations this week when they were announced as needing them weeks ago? I don't know the working of a sports club but I'd presume they'd go privately and get them done within days.'"
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Is Denis Betts, Ronaldo in disguise? "The best team lost" ?! Get over yourself you twonk
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It is surprising how stats can alter a persons thinking, I was surprised that he came well down in he number of carries he made compared to TT, Crosby, Flower and Sutton, but when analysed he came out on top in metres made per carry.
The number of carries by TT was extraordinary though.
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It is surprising how stats can alter a persons thinking, I was surprised that he came well down in he number of carries he made compared to TT, Crosby, Flower and Sutton, but when analysed he came out on top in metres made per carry.
The number of carries by TT was extraordinary though.
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| Quote ="goobervision"I guess the first port of call is recovery and rehab before going direct to the knife?'"
Would that be to avoid the op though? Or would they need to do that knowing they still need it?
The reason I'm a bit baffled is they announced they needed these ops weeks back so I then presumed they'd be having them straight away. I'm no medical man though so I don't really know what they would need to do pre op. If it was as simple as a broken leg or arm then it would clearly be done straight away. |
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| Quote ="stillinthepast"It is surprising how stats can alter a persons thinking, I was surprised that he came well down in he number of carries he made compared to TT, Crosby, Flower and Sutton, but when analysed he came out on top in metres made per carry.
The number of carries by TT was extraordinary though.'"
I thought Tautai was sensational. Aside from Wire away he's been outstanding this year and is playing with much more desire.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Would that be to avoid the op though? Or would they need to do that knowing they still need it?
The reason I'm a bit baffled is they announced they needed these ops weeks back so I then presumed they'd be having them straight away. I'm no medical man though so I don't really know what they would need to do pre op. If it was as simple as a broken leg or arm then it would clearly be done straight away.'"
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Quality not good but effort and team spirit outstanding, beginning to feel like the season when we were at the foot of the table even though we are at the top, defending our line in front of us last night great atmosphere and the lads responded, the future is indeed bright, Charnley and Flower's last ditch tackles summed it up for me.
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| Quote ="moto748"Smart-ish.
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Thanks for that. Is that just for phones, though; will it not work on a laptop?
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Clear 2nd place after tonight's results. Not bad!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Clear 2nd place after tonight's results. Not bad!'"
It it wasn't for a dodgy penalty awarded to Wire for a ball steal despite it looking like Clark just dropped the ball trying to ground it we'd probably be 3 points clear of Wire! |
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To be in this place with the constant mass of absentees we've had to put up with is a credit to the players and the coaching staff.
It'd be nice to think we'll get up to full strength at some point and if we do, I think we'll be pretty tough to beat.
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| Quote ="moto748"Thanks for that. Is that just for phones, though; will it not work on a laptop?'"
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| Quote ="CyberPieMan"Is Denis Betts, Ronaldo in disguise? "The best team lost" ?! Get over yourself you twonk'"
Yeah but everybody deserves to beat Wigan don't they? There is always an excuse. We should be on zero point because every side we play should have beaten us for one reason or another. Sod Dennis Betts, we bossed their team around the field with practically our youth team out. They dropped a couple of balls close to the line. Tough titty, things happen, if they should have won they would have, not scored NILL points. How the feck can a team that doesn't score a point deserve to win? |
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He must have watched a different game than me too! We lacked creativity again but in the circumstances it's understandable with no Sam, Williams, Lockers etc.
However defensively we were very resilient and our attitude was spot on. The try saving tackles by Flower and Charnley typified our grit and both those players (along with Mossop & TT) were magnificent. Let Denis think what he wants, his team were nilled, that's all there is to it!
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Conditions did not help - we kept it simple , Widnes tried to spread the game and made more crucial errors. Given the weather it was always going to be difficult to play creative rugby.
Good win, great defensive performance especially with the team we had (looking at before kick off I thought we be lose with the team we put out) - 2 points in the bag, move on.
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I have just watched the post match interviews on Wigan Tv given by some of the players and Management after the Widnes game.
Shaun Wane made what I thought was a disturbing comment regarding Sam being left out on Thursday, he said " both Joel and Sam hadn't trained for 4 weeks", seeing that Sam has only been back for about 5/6 games I hope this does not mean he as to be wrapped in cotton wool due to his knee swelling up between matches.
It would be a crying shame if this was the case and was an ongoing occurrence for the remainder of his career.
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| Quote ="exiled Warrior"I did NOT say it was a good game, I DID say it was a good win especially with the team we put out and the conditions at a ground we do not have a good recent record at - is that so hard to understand?'"
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