I'm not a huge fan of either player. And it's true that our pack was well beaten tonight. But this post is complete b*ll**ks

Do you really believe that?.. if so why? just curious.

That is completely irrelevant to the point I made though...
Not a problem with the effort from the players, it simply didn't happen for us tonight.
The point I was making concerned the behaviour of some of our 'fans', I was geniunely shocked when I saw the can thrown at Burgess.

did anyone think to take pictures of the fighting fans???

this yobbish trend needs stamping out smartish imo.

Guy keep this faith because this is a seasoned Leeds side that has big game players all over the field. It’s a long season ahead and anything can happen. You took Leeds all the way in last years play off semi and I feel you’ll do the same again this year.

Good luck for the rest of the season.

your speaking crap

at the end of the day the 1 st half killed us after 30 mins wigan had done 80 tackels an leeds 30 tackels no wonder we was blowing an forceing the ball but i ve still got faith we still through the ball about well in spells i think we can still challenge we ve got the hard 1 over wth lets just crack on cant call mr bollox a fan

No, plenty of people did their best to sort it out, tbh I think the 'fighting' came from more of a misunderstanding, but the can and coin throwing was completely inexcusable.

I'm guessing it came from people around the scoreboard as usual?

you given me a reason as to why Bailey was rubbish yet on Southstander?

I can honestly say I have NEVER seen any trouble.

But if what is reported is true, it's pathetic

No but thanks for the chomping on two boards now.

you think that was trolling?!

From what i could see at the top of the South Stand there was a lot of security moving around the away end in the second half

The big games do tend to be a magnet for daft behaviour

Id say its more a case of the away games provide coaches for "kids" (and I use the term in the loosest of senses) to get tanked up on cheap booze and with no supervision either on the coach or at the game its bound to lead to something.

We paid the price for a slow start full of errors tonight and never recovered. After the first 25minutes i thought we went ok and showed how we can play but against a side of Leeds quality you can't afford to start as slowly as that.

I thought we took plenty of positive out of it though and they were the fact we didn't throw the towel in added to the preformences of certain individuals like Ainscough, Leuluai, Ridell, McIlorum and O'Carroll.

We could play to the same standard most weeks and probably come away with a decent share of wins tbh.

Are we sure they were Wiganers? - Last couple of games I've been to at Leeds have been spoiled by can swigging drunken tw@s stood at the back of the stand with leeds accents spitting all over the away fans backs!

It's no wonder trouble starts when things like that go on.

The away end should be all ticket, and only available for sale from the JJB ticket office, its the only way to keep the local nobheads out

5 lads from our coach got left in Leeds for acting like complete moobs



If it is some Wigan fans, it's disgraceful and will no doubt be drunken teenagers who are responsible.

Yep.

I certainly will be "keeping the faith".

There was plenty to build on.

I'm going to have another watch of the video now before I start work.

I think the police got them in the end - some young wigan fans were making racist comments as well and the stewards got them out, fair play to burgess he picked it up and pretended to drink from it but it could have been a lot worse

dont think you can just stereotype the fighting to the drunk teenagers, stood at quins 2 weeks ago and there was a fight between 2 grown men (wigan fans) behind the sticks.

i think its more a general problem, last season i went to the grand final and some leeds fans where fighting with themselves over a seat, when there was like 5 rows of empty seats behind them. Its pathetic when fans fight with themselves, and hopefully those who where giving the racist comments get truly dealt with because that is pathetic.

I've taken last night loss pretty well.

The game for me was over after they scored their first two tries and there was indications through out the 80 mins to suggest it simply wasn't going to be our night. At the end of the day, Leeds were clinical with their finishing and everything came off for them where it was completely the opposite for us.

The effort was there as was the attempt to play expansive Rugby League, and I think that's the reason why many Wigan supporters aren't devestated in regards to last nights result.

Oh well.

As i said at the beginning of this thread just after coming out the ground we played for the full 80 which after going down so many points in 20 mins i thought showed the guts in the team i also said we made some bad decisions and so did the officials. After watching it again on TV i am of the same opinion we tried to play our way out of trouble and it did not work but if we had gone back to basics of 5 drives and a kick the team would have been slated. Ian Smith did not have a good game but he was the man incharge so you can only do what he lets you. As for some of the video Ref decisions well i am gobsmacked i think is the polite word for it. The tommy try the offside was very marginal if you cannot deem a forward pass on video how from that camera angle could he say they were offside benefit of doubt has got to come to mind. The Lockers foil was again iffy Lockers did not move maybe he should have run backwards but the leeds player ran directly at him he did not try and go for the tackle. and the Peacock try was well very iffy to say the least. Having said all that we lost to the best team in the league and Leeds deserved the win lets move on roll on next week.

Exactly, what will become clear over the next few weeks is whether we have the players to play the way Noble wants us to.

On a different night, we are 4 points behind 5 mins into the second half, then its game on.