Which of our lads are going out on dual reg?

You'd have thought a couple of months back guys like Burke and Powell would go out but they seem like getting games here. Lads like Crosby, Spencer, Gelling and Logan Tomkins will probably go out you'd think.

I can't see dual-registration with South Wales Scorpions is an attractive option. Do Wigan have a dual-registration arrangement with Leigh or will they have to go for a no-return initial one month period?

All the Wigan first team squad are dual reg'd at Leigh and I assume all the Wire squad are dual reg'd at Swinton. Paul wood is only playing at Swinton to get over his "off field" issues. was offered time off but chose instead to play at Swinton for a few weeks.

errr have you just made that up ?

eeeer no........

Is it on the wigan website ?

Paul Wood

Not all the Wigan first team squad are dual registered at Leigh.

The Leigh club has categorically stated there will be no duals with wigan,only month long loans.Spencer is the only one being used at the moment.

We'll see

Meanwhile Richard Moore and Kylie Leuleui have been dual registered with Leeds / Hunslet and are in the Hunslet squad to play Leigh over the weekend.

Farcical.

We're basically telling young players that after 19 years of age, unless you're Sam Tomkins it's time to move on to something else.

Wouldn't have Paul Wood anywhere near our squad. We have just got rid of the one big idiot in our squad, He has gone to Widnes, We should keep the media huggers at arms length. Unless you are a Sam T and are in the media because you are a great player then they shouldn't be here. We need an experienced forward but we should have gone for Crabtree in the summer. Would have been great for the younger lads, Especially Taylor, And maybe offered Fielden some sort of a coaching role for the forwards with his knowledge of the game in recent times.

if there is no under 20s any more how can 1st team players get match fitness and game time. with leeds/hunslut having an agreement on players like wigan and south wales cant see any issues only pluses on both sides, better attendances for hunslet and players get game time

I have evidence that cannot be disputed.

... but you can't reveal it, as it could cause the end of civilisation as we know it.

Pretty much as I see it.

The only way this can work is if Wigan (or any other club) actually took over a championship side and ran it as if it were an open age A team (true 2nd team) the way the old Alliance sides were.

I remember when they did away with the Alliance side thinking that was stupid but I thought at least with how things were last season with the ability of the U20's to have open age players we had a means to give slightly older players more game time and injured players (like Hansen) a place to get fit.

Young players like Gelling who don't make the 17 can't get a game and that maybe from one week to the next week after week. Even if they are getting paid why on earth would they want to stick around the game?

Absolutely right ,with the direction the sport is going in,it cannot work unless one club dictates total policy.

Exactly, the end of the world.... on the other hand, I wonder what Gareth Hock and Widnes would say about his dual reg with Leigh whilst on loan.

A young centre from Wigan made his debut in the Leigh 20's tonight by the name of John O Donnell & scored a hat-trick. Anyone know anything about him please

Quote ="The Publican"A young centre from Wigan made his debut in the Leigh 20's tonight by the name of John O Donnell & scored a hat-trick. Anyone know anything about him please '" Yes, An excellent young player who has fallen foul of the U20's changes. Last season I called him the quiet achiever in the Wigan U20 team. If you check last years U20's stats you will see that he was second behind Jack Murphy in the try scoring. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1670

Quote ="The Publican"A young centre from Wigan made his debut in the Leigh 20's tonight by the name of John O Donnell & scored a hat-trick. Anyone know anything about him please '" Yes, An excellent young player who has fallen foul of the U20's changes. Last season I called him the quiet achiever in the Wigan U20 team. If you check last years U20's stats you will see that he was second behind Jack Murphy in the try scoring. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1670

Re Leeds and Hunslet it does indeed appear as though Leeds are trying to take some control over more of the game in Leeds.

I'm not sure at all about older players being loaned to Championship sides, but without even the U20s to run around in, how are players supposed to get match fit (especially as in some cases they won't have played an actual game for months)?

Having said that, if the Championship is used as a genuine feeder competition then the current worries may subside over time if its worked right. Here in Oz we have the Queensland Cup for example. Its a competitive league in its own right, and yet its studded with players from NRL sides (either returning from injury or simply trying to play their way back into selection contention). Qld Cup sides don't change 17 players every week - they may get one or two players in and out often but their core teams are pretty stable week-to-week. If say Leuluai (or any other first team SL player) was injured for one week or just not selected, I can't imagine the SL side would loan them out for match fitness due to the risk of injury - it would only be if they were out for some time.

In fact to use the examples of Leuluai and Moore, I expect they're being loaned for different reasons - Leulaui because its the start of the season and Leeds want him to get match fit as fast as possible before playing the Storm, and Moore becuase he's simply not likely to be picked very often. I can easily see Moore playing more regularly for Hunslet than Leeds unless we get injuries.

Leuluai has now been refused permission to play for Hunslet. At least the RFL are being consistent, but it smacks of poorly thought out amateurism.

Only because his visa doesn't allow it. A UK player of his level would still be able to go on loan to Hunslet as a DR player.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes, An excellent young player who has fallen foul of the U20's changes. Last season I called him the quiet achiever in the Wigan U20 team. If you check last years U20's stats you will see that he was second behind Jack Murphy in the try scoring. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1670'" There are 4 other players who are all in the same position and have basically been told to try and find other clubs, which considering at least 2 of them Shae Lyon Fraser and Matty Crowe only signed 3 yr contracts at the beginning of last season, is a bit of a surprise as someone at the club must have thought they were showing some promise or else why give them the contracts in the first place.

Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Yes, An excellent young player who has fallen foul of the U20's changes. Last season I called him the quiet achiever in the Wigan U20 team. If you check last years U20's stats you will see that he was second behind Jack Murphy in the try scoring. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1670'" There are 4 other players who are all in the same position and have basically been told to try and find other clubs, which considering at least 2 of them Shae Lyon Fraser and Matty Crowe only signed 3 yr contracts at the beginning of last season, is a bit of a surprise as someone at the club must have thought they were showing some promise or else why give them the contracts in the first place.