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| wigan dominated most of the game, and bentham was disgracefull!
it was very nip and tuck, 2 points in it going into the 78th min
hudds bagged 2 tries at the end which i cant argue with, but wigan did not take the chances, IMO wigan should of come away with points from the games but - ey, you dont take chances, you dont score points, you dont win
HERE WAS A GREAT PUNCH UP IN IT! OFF THE BALL HANSEN AND NO.10, 10 SECONDS OF 1V1 BRAWLING FOLLOWED BY FIST FLYING EVERYWERE,
When it all seemed to have calmed down, one player throws another punch at it all re-kicks off
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Oh dear, bring back Mathers and Smith. Hudds up to 3rd and Wigan down in lownly 9th.
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not as lonley as leon is his cold dark cell
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| Both teams were sh*t. Added to that a ref who didnt once have control of the game, was just a terrible game
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| Tomkins ............. it had to happen. Rubbish game.
If he learns from it then it's not a problem.
Ainscough. Has had instances before where he was exposed. Should learn from it.
Most worrying thing is that despite possession, Wigan failed to capitalise.
Still. The cup games don't start until September. Who cares about this result?
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| Quote ="DannyRic"not as lonley as leon is his cold dark cell
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Don't worry Leon won't be lonely - he'll have a special 20 stone friend called Bubba for bedtime cuddles
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"Oh dear, bring back Mathers and Smith. Hudds up to 3rd and Wigan down in lowly 9th.
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You mean 1 place away from a playoff spot?
Would YOU choose Wigan as your opponents come September? Now truthfully?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Tomkins ............. it had to happen. Rubbish game.
If he learns from it then it's not a problem.
Ainscough. Has had instances before where he was exposed. Should learn from it.
Most worrying thing is that despite possession, Wigan failed to capitalise.
Still. The cup games don't start until September. Who cares about this result?'"
Was not at the game, but every report i have heard thus far has been very critical of another poor performance.
i do not understand the mentality of being happy to follow a 4 week team, if we make the 8 as we are realistically looking at 10th at the moment, which is not good enough with this squad.
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| Quote ="jonh"Was not at the game, but every report i have heard thus far has been very critical of another poor performance.
i do not understand the mentality of being happy to follow a 4 week team, if we make the 8 as we are realistically looking at 10th at the moment, which is not good enough with this squad.'"
You play to the rules.
The rules currently mean that form at this part of the season means zip.
Personally, I don't like it, but hey, you would be a fool not to play to the rules.
Better to finish 8th on the back of some form, than finish 3rd and be on a downward spiral.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"You play to the rules.
The rules currently mean that form at this part of the season means zip.
Personally, I don't like it, but hey, you would be a fool not to play to the rules.
Better to finish 8th on the back of some form, than finish 3rd and be on a downward spiral.'"
Are you confident we will finish in the 8? We are 9th with Bradford 2 games in hand and a Wire who will improve under Smith behind us. On our form we will not make the 8 from what i have seen thus far in 09.
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| Quote ="jonh"Are you confident we will finish in the 8? We are 9th with Bradford 2 games in hand and a Wire who will improve under Smith behind us. On our form we will not make the 8 from what i have seen thus far in 09.'"
Yeah very confident of top 8.
Nobby's teams always finish stronger than they start, and even with this in mind we are only 9th. Even if Bradford win their (THREE) games in hand, I can't see us NOT finishing in the top 8.
Can you?
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| Huddersfield just did the basics right (most of the time) and took their chances.
For Wigan it was a typical performance of the last few seasons. Dropped ball, too many silly penalties, no leadership and a beaten pack.
We simply aren't good enough, too many players who aren't good enough and an average coach.
The pack isn't up to it and hasn't been for a while now. Can't attach any blame to the backs when they are constantly playing behind a weak pack, we can't rely on Trent to pull a rabbit out the hat anymore. It says something when your best prop on the night is a 'kid'
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| Wigan were bloody clueless.
Edit: From piemandan, forgot to log out my Dads account.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Yeah very confident of top 8.
Nobby's teams always finish stronger than they start, and even with this in mind we are only 9th. Even if Bradford win their (THREE) games in hand, I can't see us NOT finishing in the top 8.
Can you?'"
On form yes. Unless we can play teams that play a flat attack against us and are coached by Noble disciples every week.
Did not see the game tonight as i said but sounds like another dire performance.
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| Quote ="Mother Feka"Both teams were sh*t. Added to that a ref who didnt once have control of the game, was just a terrible game
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Totally agree and would add that at the final whistle there was very few fans left in the ground pathetic.
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| Quote ="jonh"On form yes. Unless we can play teams that play a flat attack against us and are coached by Noble disciples every week.
Did not see the game tonight as i said but sounds like another dire performance.'"
Fair enough, but that was not the question.
Do you think that Wigan will finish in the top 8. Yes or No?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Fair enough, but that was not the question.
Do you think that Wigan will finish in the top 8. Yes or No?'"
As i said on current form no.
At the end of the year we may scrape in, and put a run together which in the grand scheme of thing will mean nothing and paper over the cracks of another gash season as we will still be lightyears behind the front runners, still if that pleases you fair enough.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Fair enough, but that was not the question.
Do you think that Wigan will finish in the top 8. Yes or No?'"
Probably because there are ony 2 good sides in the league
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| Quote ="jonh"As i said on current form no.
At the end of the year we may scrape in, and put a run together which in the grand scheme of thing will mean nothing and paper over the cracks of another gash season as we will still be lightyears behind the front runners, still if that pleases you fair enough.'"
It's not a trick question.
Do you think we will finish in the top 8.
Nevermind "on current form", future form, finger in the air form.
Do you think we will finish in the top 8. Very simple question. YES or NO?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"It's not a trick question.
Do you think we will finish in the top 8.
Nevermind "on current form", future form, finger in the air form.
Do you think we will finish in the top 8. Very simple question. YES or NO?'"
But it is not that simple, if we continue to play like we are no.
If we adapt and improve we stand a chance.
The question i pose to you is, is making the 8 acceptable in your eyes, for me it is not, we should be aiming for top 4 and i will say now i do not think we will end up top 4. I will also say that we need to be at least challenging the top teams for honours we again are in no danger of doing this.
Basically it is not acceptable. You slate Lenagan, but to improve the situation what should he do short term in your opinion to improve the situation?
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"Tomkins ............. it had to happen. Rubbish game.
If he learns from it then it's not a problem.
Ainscough. Has had instances before where he was exposed. Should learn from it.
Most worrying thing is that despite possession, Wigan failed to capitalise.
Still. The cup games don't start until September. Who cares about this result?'"
BK,
We don't always agree, but you're spot on this time.
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| Quote ="EastStandFaithful"Totally agree and would add that at the final whistle there was very few fans left in the ground pathetic.'"
I think a lot of people walked out with disgust at the abysmal refereeing, rather than the Wigan performance.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"You play to the rules.
The rules currently mean that form at this part of the season means zip.
Personally, I don't like it, but hey, you would be a fool not to play to the rules.
Better to finish 8th on the back of some form, than finish 3rd and be on a downward spiral.'"
You are not suggesting this is all some sort of master plan are you?
Mess about for half a season, finish 7th or 8th and them mount a challenge for the play-offs?
Given the new play off structure who do you think has best chance of winning the thing, a side who finishes 8th or a side who finished 4th?
The whole point of the league is make your play off fixtures as easy as possible.
There are plenty of reasons to play well and seek good form now. Finishing in the top 4 is one. Pleasing the crowd is another. IL himself acknowledged a big complaint form the fans was boring RL when he was on the Radio Manchester RL hour recently so despite the fact you play naff RL and still get into the play offs, finishing eighth this is not what the majority of fans want. It doesn't matter if technically you can win it from there, people are fed up of the team having poor league seasons and so far this season we are having another poor league season.
What means zip to most fans IMO is you can play poorly and still get into the playoffs. They do not go to games to be bored.
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| Quote ="XBrettKennyX"
Still. The cup games don't start until September. Who cares about this result?'"
Obviously you dont
You wont be there come september
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