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| Looking forward to seeing him play, irrespective of his own personal Christian beliefs and opinions!
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| Quote ="bonaire"The Guy has his own Christian beliefs
dont see much difference in his beliefs and having gay pride thrown in our faces'"
If you can't see the difference between having an opinion (based on a fictional book!) and people wanting to be free of persecution and abuse for something they have no control over then you're a lost cause. Thankfully, you're on the wrong side of history. There's a reason more and more people are turning to atheism, because "Christian beliefs" are completely morally bankrupt and people see through it very easily.
I'm really sorry LGBT people make you uncomfortable. The sooner people like you accept them, the sooner they won't need to "throw it in our faces" because they will be an accepted part of society.
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| His list of those going to hell was pretty inclusive and not just homophobic. In fact most of the people I know are on it in one category or another so I'll have plenty of company. How about a Drunk Pride event.
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| Quote ="fifty50"His list of those going to hell was pretty inclusive and not just homophobic. In fact most of the people I know are on it in one category or another so I'll have plenty of company. How about a Drunk Pride event.'"
Again, being drunk is a choice, and no one persecutes drunk people. Its very simple.
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| Tel a member of AA that.
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| From a Saints fan, I wish to say well done to Wigan, excellent decision wish Saints had thought of it first.
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| Quote ="fifty50"Tel a member of AA that.'"
I don't think you know what persecution is.
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| Quote ="Angelus"Again, being drunk is a choice, and no one persecutes drunk people. Its very simple.'"
The police do.
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| Quote ="bonaire"The Guy has his own Christian beliefs
dont see much difference in his beliefs and having gay pride thrown in our faces'"
Do you complain about 'mental health' being thrown in your face during the state of mind round?
Or conflict propaganda during armed forces day?
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"The police do.'"
Only violent drunks. Or drunks that drive. Or drunks that run down streets naked.
If you're a happy drunk minding your own business chances are you will be alright.
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| Quote ="Sweaty Betty's"The police do.'"
No they dont.
To quote google "Similar-sounding words: persecuted is sometimes confused with prosecuted"
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| Why are you all championing what your club has done with the pride day? Leneghan has admitted he was interested In signing him lmao
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Why are you all championing what your club has done with the pride day? Leneghan has admitted he was interested In signing him lmao'"
Because we think it's a good idea lmao
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Why are you all championing what your club has done with the pride day? Leneghan has admitted he was interested In signing him lmao'"
And your chairman 'crucified' a referee yet has come out against the Folau signing as well.....
Glass houses and all that
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| Quote ="[Gareth"And your chairman 'crucified' a referee yet has come out against the Folau signing as well.....
Glass houses and all that'"
And your chairman has employed a student beating homophobe already
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"And your chairman has employed a student beating homophobe already'"
How's Ben Barba doing these days?
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| Quote ="MattyB"How's Ben Barba doing these days?'"
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| Quote ="MattyB"How's Ben Barba doing these days?'"
Last I heard he was taking notes from Hardaker.
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| Quote ="Steph Curry"Last I heard he was taking notes from Hardaker.
Update: He’s still taking notes from Hardaker'"
From the moment Zak Hardaker played his first game for Wigan would you please list any of his misdemeanours below? Cheers.
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| Quote ="secondstanza"If you can't see the difference between having an opinion (based on a fictional book!) and people wanting to be free of persecution and abuse for something they have no control over then you're a lost cause. Thankfully, you're on the wrong side of history. There's a reason more and more people are turning to atheism, because "Christian beliefs" are completely morally bankrupt and people see through it very easily.
I'm really sorry LGBT people make you uncomfortable. The sooner people like you accept them, the sooner they won't need to "throw it in our faces" because they will be an accepted part of society.'"
Pushing on open doors, last time I checked being gay has been legal for donkeys years, even to the point they that being LGBTQ is a protected characteristic with special laws in place to protect them so what are they marching for? Who’s persecuting them? They have a pride month, pride march, Manchester pride, Wigan pride and now it’s getting thrown in our faces who just want to go and watch a game of rugby.
A game of rugby which everyone is welcome to attend, whereby the only labels given to people are home or away fans, the only vitriol spewed is because you’ the opposition and not because of sex, colour, sexual orientation etc.
Call me a bigot, call me homophobic I couldn’t give a toss, I know I’m not. All this is is a cheap publicity stunt by the club and brings identity politics which is extremely divisive into the club. This for me would be exactly the same as the club organising a ‘Celebrate Leaving the EU Day’ against Warrington, I’d feel the same way about that too as not everyone voted leave, it’s not everyones cup of tea and like I said before, politics and religion are best kept out of sport.
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| Quote ="post"Pushing on open doors, last time I checked it had been legal for donkeys years, even to the point they that being LGBTQ is a protected characteristic so what are they marching for?. They have a pride month, pride march, Manchester pride, Wigan pride and now it’s getting thrown in our faces who just want to go and watch a game of rugby.
A game of rugby which everyone is welcome to attend, whereby the only labels given to people are home or away fans, the only vitriol spewed is because you’ the opposition and not because of sex, colour, sexual orientation etc.
Call me a bigot, call me homophobic I couldn’t give a toss, I know I’m not. All this is is a cheap publicity stunt by the club and brings identity politics which is extremely divisive into the club. This for me would be exactly the same as the club organising a ‘Celebrate Leaving the EU Day’ against Warrington, I’d feel the same way about that too as not everyone voted leave, it’s not everyone cup of tea and like I said before, politics and religion are best kept out of sport. Rant over.'"
You say you are not homophobic and it's likely that you are not directly however I believe your apathy contributes to a lack of acceptance. I can't understand the thought process of not being homophobic but also being annoyed at pride events. Those two things don't really add up, especially since it has absolutely no impact on your life.
Legality and acceptance are not the same as I'm sure youre smart enough to know. LGBT people still suffer homophobia on a regular basis. That is fact.
Your example is poor and once again, an example of a CHOICE. Of course having a celebrate leaving the EU day would be weird because that's based on a choice people made. I'll say it louder for those in the back, sexuality is not a choice.
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| Quote ="Angelus"No they dont.
To quote google "Similar-sounding words: persecuted is sometimes confused with prosecuted"'"
I'm afraid they do.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Only violent drunks. Or drunks that drive. Or drunks that run down streets naked.
If you're a happy drunk minding your own business chances are you will be alright.'"
So you are not saying it never happens? By the way I am happy for those who are involved in the examples you give to be arrested.
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Quote ="post"Pushing on open doors, last time I checked being gay has been legal for donkeys years, even to the point they that being LGBTQ is a protected characteristic with special laws in place to protect them so what are they marching for? Who’s persecuting them? They have a pride month, pride march, Manchester pride, Wigan pride and now it’s getting thrown in our faces who just want to go and watch a game of rugby.
A game of rugby which everyone is welcome to attend, whereby the only labels given to people are home or away fans, the only vitriol spewed is because you’ the opposition and not because of sex, colour, sexual orientation etc.
Call me a bigot, call me homophobic I couldn’t give a toss, I know I’m not. All this is is a cheap publicity stunt by the club and brings identity politics which is extremely divisive into the club. This for me would be exactly the same as the club organising a ‘Celebrate Leaving the EU Day’ against Warrington, I’d feel the same way about that too as not everyone voted leave, it’s not everyones cup of tea and like I said before, politics and religion are best kept out of sport.'"
Who is persecuting them? Just a few examples that have made headlines last year. When was the last time you and the missus walked down the street and were subjected thought of a beating (for no reason)? I've never really had to think about that thankfully.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-engla ... n-49119947
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-4 ... -being-gay
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4053100
It's more common than you think. Having worked in Manchester over the last few years a number of gay colleagues were discussing abuse one day at work and every single one of them had suffered verbal and/or physical abuse for no reason when going about their daily lives.
A female colleague of my missus was physically attacked and raped in a Manchester City Centre pub toilet just before Christmas by a regular customer (bloke) who knew she was gay and had been giving her grief earlier in the evening.
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Quote ="post"Pushing on open doors, last time I checked being gay has been legal for donkeys years, even to the point they that being LGBTQ is a protected characteristic with special laws in place to protect them so what are they marching for? Who’s persecuting them? They have a pride month, pride march, Manchester pride, Wigan pride and now it’s getting thrown in our faces who just want to go and watch a game of rugby.
A game of rugby which everyone is welcome to attend, whereby the only labels given to people are home or away fans, the only vitriol spewed is because you’ the opposition and not because of sex, colour, sexual orientation etc.
Call me a bigot, call me homophobic I couldn’t give a toss, I know I’m not. All this is is a cheap publicity stunt by the club and brings identity politics which is extremely divisive into the club. This for me would be exactly the same as the club organising a ‘Celebrate Leaving the EU Day’ against Warrington, I’d feel the same way about that too as not everyone voted leave, it’s not everyones cup of tea and like I said before, politics and religion are best kept out of sport.'"
Who is persecuting them? Just a few examples that have made headlines last year. When was the last time you and the missus walked down the street and were subjected thought of a beating (for no reason)? I've never really had to think about that thankfully.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-engla ... n-49119947
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-4 ... -being-gay
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social- ... -1.4053100
It's more common than you think. Having worked in Manchester over the last few years a number of gay colleagues were discussing abuse one day at work and every single one of them had suffered verbal and/or physical abuse for no reason when going about their daily lives.
A female colleague of my missus was physically attacked and raped in a Manchester City Centre pub toilet just before Christmas by a regular customer (bloke) who knew she was gay and had been giving her grief earlier in the evening.
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