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| Quote ="ABP'"Personally, I can't see Gareth Hock returning to top flight Rugby League again. I don't think he's got the correct mentality, attitude or those around him to help do it.
I can just see him getting banned for two years, getting a labouring job and playing for an NL2 club after the ban for extra income.'"
He will get signed up again to a super league club due to his immense talent. If Ryan Hudson can he will.
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| [i"A Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL."[/i
so, no he cannot train with Wigan during his ban.
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| Quote ="Pemps"You could say he was [iscoring[/i for you'"
i was going to say that your treading a fine line with your jokes but i thinks its already been done
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| Quote ="cadoo"He will get signed up again to a super league club due to his immense talent. If Ryan Hudson can he will.'"
Could he go to union?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Could he go to union?'"
Good point. I think he probably could.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"[i"A Person who has been declared Ineligible may not, during the period of Ineligibility, participate in any capacity in a Competition or other activity (other than authorised anti-doping education or rehabilitation programmes) organised, convened or authorised by the RFL or by any body or Club that is a member of, or affiliated to, or licensed by the RFL."[/i
so, no he cannot train with Wigan during his ban.'"
nothing to say he cant employ a personal trainer (wigan coach in a private capacity) during his ban though
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| Yes looks like Hock has been unlucky? after every superleague match 2 players from each team get there numbers pulled from a bag,all 34 players are in there they are just drawn out like the draw for the CCup.Then they dont leave the sight of the testers untill they have passed urine,it can take some time has most players will be dehydrated.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Could he go to union?'"
he'd be a very good centre
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| What were the circumstances around Chris Bridge, i am sure he got nowhere near 2 years when he tested positive.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Could he go to union?'"
No - he will be banned from all sports which have signed up to the WADA code of conduct - which I think RU has.
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| Quote ="jonh"What were the circumstances around Chris Bridge, i am sure he got nowhere near 2 years when he tested positive.'"
Pretty sure it was posession.
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| Quote ="jonh"What were the circumstances around Chris Bridge, i am sure he got nowhere near 2 years when he tested positive.'"
I don't think he even got tested. Just got charged (or arrested) for possession IIRC.
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| Quote ="jonh"What were the circumstances around Chris Bridge, i am sure he got nowhere near 2 years when he tested positive.'"
I thought that was only a rumour though(a very strong one but still)?
Teams sweep this sh*t under the carpet where they can which isn't helping anyone.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Could he go to union?'" No; All the sports governing bodies are signed up to the same thing; Otherwise Dwain Chambers wouldn't have waited until his ban was complete before trying Rugby League.
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| Quote ="ABP'"
I'm sure the players will have had a team meeting and I hope the minority who may have the same urges felt embarressed, scared, frightened and paranoid about the whole situation. I also hope the academy and reserve teams have a serious dicussion and meeting in regards to the situation. Luckily, most of them will be level headed, sensible young professionals but Gareth Hock is a prime example of somebody who has come through the ranks of the club and is potentially going to ruin his life, self respect and credibility.
This could be a massive wake-up call to certain players and one huge step to improving the dramatically fading culture at Wigan Rugby League.'"
Well you would hope so but we will have to see how the club reacts. It will obviously only take action over Hock such as sacking him if the B test proves positive but assuming it does then just sacking Hock and that being the end of it won't be enough IMO.
I have the impression that everything with the club is just too lax and the job of player is considered a 9 to 5 job where what you do after hours does not matter. Well for an athlete it does. It seems just having the odd drink isn't enough for some.
The sad thing is I am sure there are plenty of Wigan players who are not so stupid and are dedicated to their job but unfortunately this reflects on the whole club and they will be tarred with the same brush so this is why they club needs to do far more than just deal with Hock.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well you would hope so but we will have to see how the club reacts. It will obviously only take action over Hock such as sacking him if the B test proves positive but assuming it does then just sacking Hock and that being the end of it won't be enough IMO.
I have the impression that everything with the club is just too lax and the job of player is considered a 9 to 5 job where what you do after hours does not matter. Well for an athlete it does. It seems just having the odd drink isn't enough for some.
The sad thing is I am sure there are plenty of Wigan players who are not so stupid and are dedicated to their job but unfortunately this reflects on the whole club and they will be tarred with the same brush so this is why they club needs to do far more than just deal with Hock.
Dave'"
i think it goes wider than Wigan it reflects on RL as a whole.
we get very little coverage of late in the media unless it's negative and bringing the game into disrepute
Reardon, Pryce, Cockayne etc etc
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i think it goes wider than Wigan it reflects on RL as a whole.
we get very little coverage of late in the media unless it's negative and bringing the game into disrepute
Reardon, Pryce, Cockayne etc etc'"
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"i think it goes wider than Wigan it reflects on RL as a whole.
we get very little coverage of late in the media unless it's negative and bringing the game into disrepute
Reardon, Pryce, Cockayne etc etc'"
I agree but I was responding to a post about how Wigan might react and what the consequences might be. On the wider front it isn't realistic to think only Hock is dumb enough to use recreational drugs and we already know that from previous convictions. The RFL can set the policy but its the clubs who need to implement it and they seem to eager to brush stuff under the carpet.
I am not suggesting how Wigan would react but if it were not for the automatic two-year ban for the drugs offence you have to wonder how soon a club (Wigan or a different one) would sign him up.
Those three you mention were not affected playing-wise all carried on with Reardon getting a contract as well until his injury forced him out. There was plenty of speculation on here if Feka would be sacked if convicted as well but it makes you wonder sometimes if club chairman can see the wider issues.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Gaz Hocks been stupid enough to get caught once, if hes been tested positive in his B sample aswell then hes even stupider than we thought. Would i be surprised to see him get away with this with a clean B sample? No but his reputation either way is done forever now.'"
the b sample is taken at the same time as the a sample for legal reasons, it ensures the a sample was not contaminated by the lab by mistake. it is tested by another lab independant of the first one.
the occasions that a b sample testing negative are very very rare.
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| Quote ="slimwire66"the b sample is taken at the same time as the a sample for legal reasons, it ensures the a sample was not contaminated by the lab by mistake. it is tested by another lab independant of the first one.
the occasions that a b sample testing negative are very very rare.
what a waste of a career!'"
Extremely silly behaviour from Hock but waste of career is going OTT, thus far he's had a fabulous career and whether you agree with it or not he'll be back playing in two years. The problem of recreational drug use in rugby league is huge, the only way to stamp it out is to test each player week in week out, including the off season too.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I agree but I was responding to a post about how Wigan might react and what the consequences might be. On the wider front it isn't realistic to think only Hock is dumb enough to use recreational drugs and we already know that from previous convictions. The RFL can set the policy but its the clubs who need to implement it and they seem to eager to brush stuff under the carpet.
I am not suggesting how Wigan would react but if it were not for the automatic two-year ban for the drugs offence you have to wonder how soon a club (Wigan or a different one) would sign him up.
Those three you mention were not affected playing-wise all carried on with Reardon getting a contract as well until his injury forced him out. There was plenty of speculation on here if Feka would be sacked if convicted as well but it makes you wonder sometimes if club chairman can see the wider issues.
Dave'"
they really need to drill into the players from the moment they enter the game the importance of clean living and conduct OFF the field and the consequences. Me personally even thought it weakens your side and i support wire am very disappointed with this because he is a good player and my personal opinion on drugs offences should be a life ban from the sport if using illegal substances.
I want to feel for the lad but there really is no excuses for his behaviour/choices. I know if i had been good enough to go pro i would have been a saint (not st helens i add) because it would have been a dream job that i wouldn't want to risk for anything.
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| the man is an idiot how old is he 25
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| Quote ="beasty"the man is an idiot how old is he 25'"
Soon to be 26 I think.
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