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| It was 100% defo a Milward signing.
I remember at the time how Millward was boasting of his NRL connections via his dad.
The one good thing to come out of the Millward era IMO.
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| Top notch from Pat again today, he wouldnt go amiss in the australian national team on current form IMO
Pat take a bow
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| Man Of Steel contender at half way stage
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| Quote ="those were the days"Man Of Steel contender at half way stage'"
Definitely, a long with Locky.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Definitely, a long with Locky.'"
I said the other week that if anyone is going to win the MoS ahead of Lockers he would have to be playing superbly. The Postman is certainly running Lockers very close and in the last few weeks Pat's form has been nothing short of sensational. The good news for us is that we have two players who are performing at the very highest level week in, week out. Madge must be delighted with the way they are both going this season.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Millward had nowt to do with it IMO. Mo signed Richards and Millward played him at centre nearly ruining him. Everyone knows I don't rate Noble but credit where it's due, he switched Pat to the wing and he hasn't looked back since. I think he has improved further this season under the MM regime as well.
I thought it would be a long time before we had a overseas wing legend to rival Dallas but Richards is already right up there.
Dave'"
Well done on your post where everything is wrong. He was a Millward signing and also the reason he was playing in the centre's was due to Dallas and Calderwood already being our two wingers.
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| I'd go as far as saying he won the game for you today, could of been very different without him.
Sensational.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"It was 100% defo a Milward signing.'"
Well if it was that blows away the idea Mo signed all the players!
An interesting notion?
Whatever, Millward may have signed him but it took Noble to get him playing right.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Well if it was that blows away the idea Mo signed all the players!
An interesting notion?
Whatever, Millward may have signed him but it took Noble to get him playing right.
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Or maybe playing him where he was meant to play? Granted Nobby put him there, Millward just used him in the centres because of the Dallas and Calderwood. Playing Pat on the wing is what helped him most.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Well done on your post where everything is wrong. He was a Millward signing and also the reason he was playing in the centre's was due to Dallas and Calderwood already being our two wingers.'"
It doesn't matter who the wingers were, Millward decided to play him at centre and it was a mistake. Who was it who picked Pat at centre? (It was Millward).
Who was it who picked Pat on the wing when Dallas was still at the club? (It was Noble even though Dallas was fit after injury for several games before his final couple of appearances - he was keeping Dallas out).
Fact of the matter is Noble recognised Richards as a winger, never a centre and played him on the wing and in so doing saved his Wigan career IMO.
Since playing on the wing he has gone on to be a great player for us.
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| When he first signed for us if we didnt have Calderwood and Dallas he would of played on the wing, however next available spot was centre and your not going to leave Richards out. When Noble arrived it was injuries to Calderwood and Dallas that seen Richards get his chance on the wing.
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| Quote ="KoA"Or maybe playing him where he was meant to play? '"
That is what I meant. He is not a centre and never was.
Quote Granted Nobby put him there, Millward just used him in the centres because of the Dallas and Calderwood. Playing Pat on the wing is what helped him most.'"
Signing a winger and putting him in the centres seems an odd idea to me. We as a club did it a couple of times including Richards and it didn't work. I think Jamie Ainscough (or what it Mark Bell?) was signed as such? Richards was actually signed to play centre as well . It was in the press at the time and the news from the club and Richards was quoted he was looking forward to it.
If it was because we had Dallas (in his last year with us) and Calders it doesn't let Millward off the hook IMO. A mistake to play him there IMO.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"When he first signed for us if we didnt have Calderwood and Dallas he would of played on the wing, however next available spot was centre and your not going to leave Richards out.'"
Not so IMO. He was signed to play centre. Do a search and see if you can find any news items of the time and I am sure you will see he was signed to switch to be a centre.
Quote When Noble arrived it was injuries to Calderwood and Dallas that seen Richards get his chance on the wing.'"
Dallas getting injured did let Richards have a run on the wing and it was like watching a different player. I asked the question at the time was there a way back for Dallas given the way Richards went (and I was one of Dallas biggest fans). It really was almost the second coming seeing Richards used properly.
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| Ok I will have a look at him being signed to play centre, but all I was getting at was it was Millward who brought him here. What other signings did Millward make in his time here apart from the rubbish ones?
Logan?
Fletcher?
Barrett?
Feka?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Ok I will have a look at him being signed to play centre, but all I was getting at was it was Millward who brought him here. What other signings did Millward make in his time here apart from the rubbish ones?
Logan?
Fletcher?
Barrett?
Feka?'"
I am pretty sure Barrett signed in 2007. Other than that I think those are all Millward era players and I was a big fan of Logan but I think Fletcher was here already (not sure).
Logan was another player who got a new lease of life under Noble in 2006 IMO. Great prop IMO.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am pretty sure Barrett signed in 2007. Other than that I think those are all Millward era players and I was a big fan of Logan but I think Fletcher was here already (not sure).
Logan was another player who got a new lease of life under Noble in 2006 IMO. Great prop IMO.
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Yeah I used to like both Logan and Fletcher always seemed to give their all for us in the time they were here. And your right Barrett did join in 2007 even though I am sure the signing was announced half way through the 2006 season as there was talk, would he still sign for us if we were playing in NL1 the season after
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Ok I will have a look at him being signed to play centre, but all I was getting at was it was Millward who brought him here. What other signings did Millward make in his time here apart from the rubbish ones?
Logan?
Fletcher?
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Feka?'"
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| Quote ="DaveO"Not so IMO. He was signed to play centre.'"
Absolute rubbish. Why would the NRL's top try scoring winger, one of the best under the high ball and has great speed signed to "switch to be a centre"? Even Millward wasn't that stupid. Please stop posting factually incorrect things.
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| Quote ="CAM."Absolute rubbish. Why would the NRL's top try scoring winger, one of the best under the high ball and has great speed signed to "switch to be a centre"? Even Millward wasn't that stupid. Please stop posting factually incorrect things.'"
If he wasn't signed to play centre, why was he given the #3 shirt?
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| Quote ="Jeff the God of Biscuits"If he wasn't signed to play centre, why was he given the #3 shirt?'"
Dallas was 2, Calderwood was 5?
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Dallas was 2, Calderwood was 5?'"
The give him number 22 or 55 if you want him to be a winger. Don't give him the centres number. He was signed to be a centre, played at centre and was gash at centre.
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| He wasnt gash, he just wasnt as good as he is on the wing.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"He wasnt gash, he just wasnt as good as he is on the wing.'"
He really was gash. So much so we wanted to send him to Wakefield. he wasn't 10% of the player he is at wing/full back.
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| Pat R was so good, even the Australian media picked up stories of his feats v Salford.
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| I was surprised but delighted to read last week that he has now passed into the top 10 Wigan RL points scorers of ALL TIME. God, that’s some effort. He could quite easily push his way up that table as well.
Farrell, Botica & Richards. The points he’s racking up he’s going to go down in that bracket of modern legends. He’ll not catch Farrell but maybe Botica is within reach. I can’t recall what his figures were?
He’s quite simply in awesome form. He brings so much to the game. His 2 tries yesterday were crackers. The fend and space he created for himself on the first and his strength and presence of mind to ground the ball with his back to the try line on his 2nd try were a joy to watch
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