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| Lam jnr may be the key to this.
Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.
He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
What Dad doesn't want their son to succeed in their dreams?
What Dad wouldn't do anything they could to get their son a big break?
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| Quote ="nikos"Lam jnr may be the key to this.
Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.
He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
What Dad doesn't want their son to succeed in their dreams?
What Dad wouldn't do anything they could to get their son a big break?'"
When the Dad is coaching the local juniors nine times out of ten it's because his son wants to play and the Dad has put his hand up to help with the coaching. I did the exact same thing myself a few years ago. So did a few others but it's a totally different thing having a go at coaching so the junior team and your son actually has a coach so they can have a game to making decisions at SL level.
We are talking SL and the needs of Wigan here, not the needs of Lam's son. If he's not played an NRL game then he is another young project player and given Wigan are crying out for a better option than Powell regardless of who's son he is, is that the sort of recruit we should be looking at? We have at least a couple of our own projects of a similar age and we'd be hoping a 20 year old Aussie junior with zero NRL experience is the answer. If he were not Lam's son I really doubt there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for such a signing.
If as some are suggesting this place would go ballistic if he turns out to be a sensation in the NRL because we didn't sign him that really is clutching at straws by predicting the future to excuse signing him. Can I have this weeks lotto numbers please? You can use that excuse to sign any kid you like. If he's got that much potential his Aussie club will be expecting him at 20 to break into the first team about [inow[/i and as such I'd expect him to be already be commanding a wage we would struggle to match.
Apart from the nepotism thing I first mentioned, the risk as I see it is we have to take Lam jnr to entice his Dad to come so it's Wigan that can give his son a break he might never get in Oz whether we really want Lam jnr or not.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I remember certain a certain poster not happy that Madge was coming... The usual, a rookie coach, not Wigan quality... Turned out fine.... I think some folks are happy to find a perceived fault with everything...'"
Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.'"
I guess there really is a first time for everything! ![Very Happy icon_biggrin.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_biggrin.gif)
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| Wasps' coach has his son as a first team regular. So did Northampton (?). In the NRL, Cleary Snr is taking over his son's team. it's hardly that rare.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.'"
It was AJ and RHJ, both the same person.
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| It could work both ways. The father could just as easily end up being harder on his son than any other player to prove there is no favouritism.
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| I don't think it would be a problem at all, and more than anything I would expect a father would be harder on his son than on anyone else when he is coaching him just to dispell the image that he is getting a free ride.
If Lam does get confirmed I do hope his son is our new Number 7, the only way is up concerning our current incumbent.
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| Any news on weather there is a press conference this week ref a new boss. Im getting bored of waiting. Its been months now.
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| Quote ="DaveO"When the Dad is coaching the local juniors nine times out of ten it's because his son wants to play and the Dad has put his hand up to help with the coaching. I did the exact same thing myself a few years ago. So did a few others but it's a totally different thing having a go at coaching so the junior team and your son actually has a coach so they can have a game to making decisions at SL level.
We are talking SL and the needs of Wigan here, not the needs of Lam's son. If he's not played an NRL game then he is another young project player and given Wigan are crying out for a better option than Powell regardless of who's son he is, is that the sort of recruit we should be looking at? We have at least a couple of our own projects of a similar age and we'd be hoping a 20 year old Aussie junior with zero NRL experience is the answer. If he were not Lam's son I really doubt there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for such a signing.
If as some are suggesting this place would go ballistic if he turns out to be a sensation in the NRL because we didn't sign him that really is clutching at straws by predicting the future to excuse signing him. Can I have this weeks lotto numbers please? You can use that excuse to sign any kid you like. If he's got that much potential his Aussie club will be expecting him at 20 to break into the first team about [inow[/i and as such I'd expect him to be already be commanding a wage we would struggle to match.
Apart from the nepotism thing I first mentioned, the risk as I see it is we have to take Lam jnr to entice his Dad to come so it's Wigan that can give his son a break he might never get in Oz whether we really want Lam jnr or not.'"
I was with you all the way on this until the point where you say his Aussie club will be expecting him to break through. I’d agree if he wasn’t up against Cooper Cronk and let’s face it, no 20 year old souls oust Cronk from any side.
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| Quote ="Bigredwarrior"I was with you all the way on this until the point where you say his Aussie club will be expecting him to break through. I’d agree if he wasn’t up against Cooper Cronk and let’s face it, no 20 year old souls oust Cronk from any side.'"
Quite right but if he is the outstanding 20 year old then there are 15 other teams in the NRL he can go to before coming here.
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| Quote ="DaveO"Quite right but if he is the outstanding 20 year old then there are 15 other teams in the NRL he can go to before coming here.'"
Perhaps Lochlan Lam can use Super League experience to develop and improve his career, a step up from a feeder team rugby and an opportunity to have some life experience playing some big games while gain life experience living in another country. This very transition to new life would be made far easier if his father is also in the same country working with him at the same club.
Many NRL players have raised more awareness to their careers with a spell in SL, and then later gone on to be a success in the NRL, our very own Blake Green for example.
If I were in Lochlan's position, I would be very interested at hearing what such a move can offer.
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| Quote ="Tricky Dicky"Any news on weather there is a press conference this week ref a new boss. Im getting bored of waiting. Its been months now.'"
Are you looking for some kind of announcement?
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| Quote ="Ziggy Stardust"Complete Nonsense..
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Is my prediction of Lam 2019 / Edwards 2020 still complete nonsense?
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| Quote ="King Johns II"Is my prediction of Lam 2019 / Edwards 2020 still complete nonsense?'"
Not as sure about Lam but I think your Edwards for 2020 could be spot on.
We need some radical change in direction that hopefully Edwards can bring and if that means a "holding" period by Lam personally I can put up with that as long as I see genuine effort week in week out and some improvements on the attacking front.
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| Quote ="King Johns II"Is my prediction of Lam 2019 / Edwards 2020 still complete nonsense?'"
I’d be amazed if it was - and that’s not saying I think you’re wrong. I’d genuinely be amazed, baffled even.
I don’t get what a “holding” coach would add or benefit to either the club or the players. If Edwards isn’t for 2019 we should move on, and it pains me to say it as I do want him as our Head Coach. Clearly the RUWC means more to him, that’s not having a pop at him either. He’s worked phenomenally hard with Wales RU and deserves to go but we want and need him for 2019. The timing isn’t right and it happens, I’m sure the job would come up again in a few years time when he could apply again and this time get the job.
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| i'm beginning to think if it is Lam for 2019 and edwards for 2020, well what a waste of time for lam it will be. barely be settled in and will be ousted after one season no matter his achievement in that time, if any.
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| Quote ="WiganBurt"i'm beginning to think if it is Lam for 2019 and edwards for 2020, well what a waste of time for lam it will be. barely be settled in and will be ousted after one season no matter his achievement in that time, if any.'"
He’d probably slot back in to a #2 role but I can’t see how he’d be up for that. Taking the reigns at a club like Wigan is huge and to be dropped back in to #2 would be gutting.
Let’s say the club do go down that route; what if Lam is an overwhelming success in his first season? Would we really drop him and go with Edwards? What if Edwards is then an overwhelming disaster?
I know it’s all hypothetical what ifs but they are very real possibilities that aren’t far from the realms of reality.
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| It’ll be a really strange move if it is that IMO. If we go great under Lam then we’ll look stupid moving him on and if things don’t go so well then it’ll be blamed on the shadow of Shaun Edwards lingering over him.
Whoever we get needs to be a longer term appointment for me.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"He’d probably slot back in to a #2 role but I can’t see how he’d be up for that. Taking the reigns at a club like Wigan is huge and to be dropped back in to #2 would be gutting.
Let’s say the club do go down that route; what if Lam is an overwhelming success in his first season? Would we really drop him and go with Edwards? What if Edwards is then an overwhelming disaster?
I know it’s all hypothetical what ifs but they are very real possibilities that aren’t far from the realms of reality.'"
exactly this. all of this. read twice. multiplied by 90.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"It’ll be a really strange move if it is that IMO. If we go great under Lam then we’ll look stupid moving him on and if things don’t go so well then it’ll be blamed on the shadow of Shaun Edwards lingering over him.
Whoever we get needs to be a longer term appointment for me.'"
see previous response!!
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| Clue on social media . Comentary of someone scoring 250 try for Wigan
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| Quote ="Edinburgh Warrior"Clue on social media . Comentary of someone scoring 250 try for Wigan'"
[urlhttps://twitter.com/WiganWarriorsRL/status/1027222996560297985[/url
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| Unsure what to make of having a head coach for a year. Can't see discipline being too tight.
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| Quote ="Suzy Banyon"Unsure what to make of having a head coach for a year. Can't see discipline being too tight.'"
Get where you’re coming from but I’m sure SE would be having words with the squad in pre season and you’ve also got to remember these are professional players playing for their livelihoods at one of the biggest RL clubs in the land and the world with a chance to play under an all time great of both codes. Those chances don’t come along all the time. I’d imagine each player would be gunning to impress next season.
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