Let's not.

Let's point and laugh at the posters who were calling for Noble's head.


Let's laugh at the thought that they actually thought that they knew more about coaching and RL than he did.


Let's laugh at the egg on the face of the above posters.


Let's also point to the fact that it's only March. Noble's teams generally "kick on" around August/Sept time.


It's going to be funny to cut and paste some of the posts made by some posters as this season unfolds.


Let's do that shall we?

People seem to be trying to stray away from the original point of why i posted this thread.

Jonh/DaveO and the bandwagon jumpers pointed out Noble could only coach boring 5 drives and a kick Rugby.
Those people have well and truely been proven wrong tonight.

Those same people regulary said Noble would not give youth or English players a chance-Wrong as proven again tonight.

DaveO said Noble had been forced into playing young players through injurys. Whilst that is stating the obvious and something that happens at any club Noble has proven that he will stick with young British players as long as they perform. He has also shown that the saying that he will not drop players is also nothing but a myth.

They will for fear of having to backtrack on some crazy views.

One of those views being that Jonh knows better than the most sucsessful coach of the SL era!

Just a question have we been here before regards 1 off performances?

Did the tactics employed tonight highlight exactly what the Noble doubters have been calling for?

The stupidity of claiming Noble is suddenly a great coach after 1 good performance in the face of 4 poor ones blows my mind.

As i said i am happy to offer praise tonight as he deserves it given that performance, just as other performances have deserved criticism.

As i said earlier the people who seem to accuse me of having an inflated ego and agendas certainly seem to be trying to plump there own tonight.

LOL

You are now making yourself look VERY silly. I would stop posting for tonight if I were you.


ONE performance?

We are talking about the most successful coach in SL history.

No. It highlighted what can be achieved when the players follow the gameplan.

How about no?

How is there egg on anyone’s faces? Three pathetic performances against teams we should have either beat or literally destroyed, a scrappy win against Quins and an excellent win against what was a poor Bradford team and all of a sudden everything is rosy in the Garden? I really don’t think so. I can’t believe how easily pleased some fans are- guess that’s it we are gonna win the league eh?

I’m sorry but I’m still not happy and won’t be till we put a decent continuous run together. We all know this team can win against the likes of Bradford, Leeds, Warrington as we’ve been doing it for a few seasons now but it’s no good beating these then failing to beat Castleford, Wakefield & Hull KR is it! Or are you happy with one or two big wins then utterly pathetic shower of e performances like the Cas or Wakefield ones cause I’m not!!

Oh and please stop going on about how it only matters later in the comp. I want to watch my team win every week and play well for the majority of the season not two or three games at the end of the season. Any coincidence Leeds and Saints have been the two most consistent teams week in week out and they are the two who have contested the GF?

Noble is starting to turn it round but to suddenly suggest all is forgiven for the poor performances we’ve seen so far this season apart from tonight is laughable.

If History was all that mattered Ian Millward would still be coach at Wigan.

I have no interest on what he did at Bradford, for me his time at Wigan should be judged on just that, not what he did wth another club.

Tonight was a big tick against his name, happy to commend him as i have said, lets hope it is finally the start of something positive for the club.

Do you think the game plan tonight has been more or less the same as it has been for the previous 4 games?

In some regards yes. But with a fit hooker and a capable stand off the difference in execution was evident.

The sad thing is you can see some people sat watching the game tonight itching to get away to have a pop at those on here who have criticised Noble rather than enjoying the performance.

I agree those 2 aspect would significantly help, but the game plan of support runners, cutting angles and the expansive play from all our players clearly was not sent out with them in the first 4 games.

Perhaps based on the points above. We now have the tools so to speak and Noble's task is now to ensure consistency and put a run together.

Shame it’s either black or white with the pro Noble brigade isn’t it. How dare anyone pick faults in either his tactics or team selection.

We are still on three loses and two wins which for the teams we've played against isn't good enough. The team is getting better which is a massive positive but it's still not all hunky dory as some fans seem would have you believe.

I'll be the first one to hold my hand and say Noble has taken us to the next level when we put a good run together as we haven't done this under BN yet.

Noble was forced to play Ainscough and Tomkins. Anyone who doesn't believe it only has 2 look at his selections for the first game of the season to see what Noble's starting team when all on 'form' is.

I hope so i really do, but again we have showed these tools in the past on many many occasions but failed to do this, lets hope this is not the case after today.

I fully expect a big performance next week the proof of this will be in the weeks after the Leeds game.

Agreed, we need to show up against Leeds, we might not win, but we need to be in the wrestle in the latter part of the game.

Coming out of the Leeds game and the performances which follow are important.

Typical blinkered view. If he was forced to play them surely he would of dropped them both tonight in favour of Smith and Pryce/Mathers? Based on your theory of course.

He played them partly because of injuries and mostly because they deserve thier shot, they kept their places because they played well and are showing that they are SL players.

This argument is becoming pathetic regarding Noble.

Was he "forced" to drop Smith too?

I presume he was "forced" to adopt the tactics he did too?



I am all for debate, in fact the more the merrier, but posts like that invide ridicule.

Jonh,your changing the subject.

You have told us how Brian Noble is a poor coach with a very limited 5 drives and a kick gameplan for the past 2/3 years. You have also told us all his previous achievements were down to pure luck (LOL). You have also commented on his inability to evolve with the game. Basically you pointed out that he is not capable of coaching a team to play fast and expansive game like Wigan did tonight.

No one is trying to 'plump there own ego',we are simply giving Brian Noble the credit he deserves (after all we are fans of his and believe he is a quality proven coach) , he has taken one hell of a battering by most people and your posts have certainly swayed the majority to jump on the anti-Noble bandwagon. You have had your say on the matter for years week after week. Rarely has a day gone by you have not mentioned Nobles inability to play anything but basic 5 drives and a kick and pointed out you could do better. I think its only fair that we conclude that he has proven you wrong.

Hopefully now the players will put the same effort in every week and we will get some consistancy going and give ourselves a better chance of reaching the GF this year.

Have i not given him the credibility he deserves tonight and at other times in the past? When a performance deserves it then it is obvious we should credit him, just as when his performances have been poor he should be criticised.

The only thing i see here is me with a balanced view glad to praise when it is deserving and also criticise and a group of others who think he is beyond criticism regardless of how we play but hail him as a genius when we do perform.

In real terms tonight was a "blip" an anomoly, something we have seen in the past, the proof of the pudding is in the next few months and hopefully years he is at Wigan, if he is able to consistently produce a team capable of performing like this, something he has failed yet to do.

Oh god its embarrassing for them!

He was forced to drop Smith due to his garbage defence, this was exposed on several occasions but it took a suspension to our bench hooker for him to get his chance.


He clearly was forced to adopt these tactics as if he had continued with his previous tactics he would be closer to being out of a job than he currently is now.

Ha ha.

I guess Ainscough got his chance due to his performances in the pre season did he? Or was it cause Richards & Phelps were injured, Mathers was suspended and Pryce isn't right yet? At the start of the season Ainscough was our fifth choice winger! He's twice the player Phelps is but Noble didn't want to play him till he was forced 2!

Sam was again given his chance out of fate not by some great plan of Noble's. Mcilorum was suspended and we needed a substitute hooker/6.

Those are the facts mate and i sorry that your head is so far up Nobles booty you can’t see them.

It’s impossible to have a debate if the other person doesn’t want to even look at the possibility that Noble isn’t actually God’s gift to Wigan RL.

I can't believe some people can't give credit when it's due. Most young players only get there chance through injury or suspension to other players, it's what they do with that chance what matters. Fortunatelybthey took their chances and as bobby said he would he has picked players on form and not reputation.