They said that about Hitler !!

Jinkin Jimmy, the link is quite simple.

O'Loughlin hadn't played a game of SL since May. And in my opinion he was as poor as most others on Sunday, not least in the leadership department where Wigan were left sadly lacking.

He ought to have started the game on the bench with Tomkins in the first XIII. Make him earn his place back in the starting line-up and regain his match fitness, for this level, gradually.

That's in my humble opinion, of course. And we're all entitled to one of those.

Do you seriously believe that Tomkins is a better player than Lockers? From what I can gather Lockers has been our best forward in the pre-season.

I think the fair thing would be to have them both in the starting line up. Tomkins on the place he earned last season and OLoughlin from good pre-season performances.
I dont think its fair to say Tomkins should keep OLoughlin out of the team/on the bench etc. But at the same time Tomkins doesnt deserve to lose his starting place on the basis of what was seen last year.

Still no news.

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We are hardly going to miss him if he is banned.

I don't want him to be banned, I want to see whether he will be dropped or not for his performance on Sunday.

When you hand-pick statistics to suit your arguement it makes them even less valid. For example why didn't you include try assists?

Unfortunately for you I suspect Mathers wil get banned thus taking the onus off Noble.

The incident happened in front of me and it looked a bad one in normal speed

Mathers has been found guilty and suspended for 2 games

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And Noble gets let off the hook

He might appeal & get more

I've no problem with Mathers' ban but how did Demetriou not even get called to account?

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I wonder where Mathers goes from here? Banned, totally out of form, supporters against him etc. He never should have been given another year.

We should put lockers at 6, tomkins at 13 and smith on the bench.

also i thought amos played better at fb, so maybe we should put him at 1, phelps at 2 goulding at 3 etc....

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!

With our current squad, we have only one possible option to do anything, or go anywhere this season:

Smith at 6, Tommy at 7 and Sam on the bench.

Neither Tim or Tom will ever make a top 6, they both get a nosebleed when they go within 15 metres of the touchline.

Appeal, Appeal, Appeal

Correct. Unless @ some point we try Phelps at 6, he played their for Aussie schoolboys and Bulldogs fans deem it to be his best position.

*awaits the usual Phelps bashing without considered thought*

Wonder if "Wire forever" still thinks the same?

baffles me as Wire have better fullbacks than him but play him.

roll on saturday!

u think he's playing badly at the minute then ?

i thought he was back to his best (if not even better), did a lot of good things in attack, made some good tackles. granted he had a couple errors, but when involved in the play so much, its only natural that your error count will be higher then some team mates. (you won't find many games where a ball playing fullback, stand off, scrum half or hooker will have a perfect, no error game)