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| well there goes my dream team only hock getting me any points
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| Quote ="RB"That **** Ryan Hudson was older than Hock when he got banned. But he came back.'"
But Hudson had only just started at a big club, Bradford, when he was banned, and had come from a small club. He had to go to a small club when he came back, Huddersfield (they were smaller then), and has ended up back at Cas.
At Wigan, Hock is top flight and top money. He won't command offers anywhere near what he will be on now in a couple of years time. (By top flight, I meant at a bigger club, not below Super League - my mistake).
This will be a lesson for any young player.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Alot will depend on the attitude of Hock himself.
If he has any sort of remorse maybe theres a hope for him but if this is just water off a ducks back for him then i'd bin him off in an instant.'"
I agree
one reason i would stop and think before sacking him is the fact. there will be no morals shown by the rest of the league when his bans up and there all knocking on his door.
rightly the club will sack him..but its the club and fans being hurt here.
And some other clubs gain in 2 years time
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| IF (and thats a big if) he manages to reform himself and get away from the scrubbers he hangs around with from Norley and sort himself out, we should keep his registration and bring him back after any potential ban
he is an awesome talent with a ridiculously small brain. if the club can educate him properly (like they should have been doing for the last 6 years) then, as a player, im 100% confident he can be saved
if the club washes their hands of him, then hes done
over to you Mr Chairman
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"If Hock was banned from today, he will be a couple of months short of his 28th birthday when he is eligible to play again, assuming that he has a contract sorted for when any ban ends. So he will be entering the season when he will become 29 when he is due for any sort of prolonged rugby.
I know his body will be in better shape than some, but a comeback from a two-year lay off at nearly 29 sounds career ending as far as the top flight is concerned. Some of the smaller clubs might be interested, but I can't see you or any of the big money clubs willing to risk much money on him. He has blown it big style.'"
I don't think age or time out of the game would do anything to Hocks playing abilities tbh.
He's always been a physical freak with unbelievable strengh for the size of him and that wouldn't change with an enforced lay off.
If you look at Hocks career though it's always been destined to be abit of a waste with long injury lay off and lay offs through suspension making it to stop start affair and this will continue that trend.
He'll be back because at the end of the day if clubs are willing to take on a player thats glassed his own girlfriend they'll take on a lad thats been taking banned substances.
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| Quote ="[Gareth"IF (and thats a big if) he manages to reform himself and get away from the scrubbers he hangs around with from Norley and sort himself out, we should keep his registration and bring him back after any potential ban
he is an awesome talent with a ridiculously small brain. if the club can educate him properly (like they should have been doing for the last 6 years) then, as a player, im 100% confident he can be saved
if the club washes their hands of him, then hes done
over to you Mr Chairman'"
He's not from Norley.
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| Quote ="JTB"I wonder if they'll change his profile on the club website: Gareth is a rough, tough, hard working second row forward who finished the year on a high.'"
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"If Hock was banned from today, he will be a couple of months short of his 28th birthday when he is eligible to play again, assuming that he has a contract sorted for when any ban ends. So he will be entering the season when he will become 29 when he is due for any sort of prolonged rugby.
I know his body will be in better shape than some, but a comeback from a two-year lay off at nearly 29 sounds career ending as far as the top flight is concerned. Some of the smaller clubs might be interested, but I can't see you or any of the big money clubs willing to risk much money on him. He has blown it big style.'"
Does not seem to have done Del Sailor much harm at St George.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"He got a two year ban.
Hock's 25 going on 26. Two years without rugby coming back at 28 going on 29.'"
Maths not you strong point?
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| Quote ="minato"well there goes my dream team only hock getting me any points'"
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"
rightly the club will sake him..but its the club and fans being hurt here.
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Take him out for a Japanese meal!!!!
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| Quote ="mystic eddie"Maths not you strong point?
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| Quote ="JTB"They have
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| I'm stunned. Can't believe it and I had to read the article on teletext numerous times for it to sink in.
I can't understand why anyone would risk their short career by doing something like that? Doesn't make much sense. I really hope it is a mistake but I doubt it.
Real shame because Gareth Hock is one of the most talented players at the club and one of our best players. A wigan lad as well.
I just trust the club to do what is right. Call back Lee Mossop
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[url=http://www.wiganwarriors.com/SquadMember.asp?teamid=1&id=68Bet Nigel and Bea Hinchcliffe want a refund as well[/url
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| right i will probably get shot down for this. Yeah Cocaaine is bad but it isnt a performance enhancing drug so why the 2 year Ban?? a big fine i can undderstand and now Hock has been done they will have too carry it on SL wont have many players left lol football is the same full of it
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| Personally, I can't see Gareth Hock returning to top flight Rugby League again. I don't think he's got the correct mentality, attitude or those around him to help do it.
I can just see him getting banned for two years, getting a labouring job and playing for an NL2 club after the ban for extra income.
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| Quote ="Paul2e"What about after that? Or are we not allowed to speculate / voice opinions at this time?'"
He will almost certainly have his contract cancelled if the b sample is confirmed with wigan retainign his registration
Quote ="oggy123"right i will probably get shot down for this. Yeah Cocaaine is bad but it isnt a performance enhancing drug so why the 2 year Ban?? a big fine i can undderstand and now Hock has been done they will have too carry it on SL wont have many players left lol football is the same full of it'"
You talk like hock if the first player to ever be tested there are over 500 random tests throughout the season
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| What a idiot a waste of a talent.
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| The only facts we have are from the official statements and there is no need to go over other people's opinions on the matter. However I think there is a bit too much doom and gloom going on about this issue.
If the second sample is positive and a two year ban results then yes we will lose one of our better performers. However rather than crying over spilt milk we could look at the positive opportunities for the club rather than the prospect of losing a semi final this year.
If the b sample is positive and he is banned and sacked by the club...
We have an opportunity for one of several promising second rowers from our reserves to play for the team and stay at Wigan when they may otherwise have left to gain first team rugby.
We have more freedom to operate under the cap and with it the potential to improve the squad in an area where it is more urgently needed. This can help with the advancement by a season of our push to be more consistent and competitive.
We would have removed a deleterious example of acceptable behaviour from the club and so diminished the exposure of younger players to this practice.
The club would have a perfect opportunity to distance itself from the use of drugs by using players and others at the club to spearhead an anti drugs campaign. Such an approach would show the club in a positive light and this incident although not one that you would want to occur could be used as a starting point for this type of campaign in order to gain some positive publicity for the club.
A strong stance by the club in such a matter should attract players and coaches who are against drug use etc as well as putting off those who may be more lenient on such matters. This would help in the changing to a more positive club culture.
I may be being overly optimistic but then someone has to be.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"He's not from Norley.'"
well whichever sh[ii[/ithole hes from then
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| Quote ="minato"well there goes my dream team only hock getting me any points'"
You could say he was [iscoring[/i for you
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| Quote ="ABP'"Personally, I can't see Gareth Hock returning to top flight Rugby League again. I don't think he's got the correct mentality, attitude or those around him to help do it.
I can just see him getting banned for two years, getting a labouring job and playing for an NL2 club after the ban for extra income.'"
Some other SL side will have a agreement with him the minute wigan rip his contract up.
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