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| Quote ="MattyB"Plus Fielden on a vastly reduced contract from his one under Maurice Lindsay's "panic signing" contract which is about to expire.'"
I do hope this signals that Fielden will be on his way.
Thanks Stu (and Dobbo) for saving us from the drop, but even with a better level of performances this year, he is still a shadow of the former player we signed.
Keep Coley added to signing Lima, and fill the rest with O'Carroll, Prescott, Hock?, Mossop
Use Fieldens wages to better effect
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| Quote ="Famous"There is no maybe about it. No doubt they will be on a good wage but Riddell, Feka and Bailey are all on a very good wage too. Pryce is also on a decent wage (quite a lot depending on who you talk to) and I cant see Phelps being on peanuts either. This coupled with Fieldens contract reduction means they can be fitted under the cap. I doubt very much that we will sign Quinn due to all the reasons on this thread and in particular the fact we dont need him.'"
If im being honest i can't see Feka and bailey being on big deals at all, i think riddel will be on a good deal but phelps will be on pretty low wage IMO.
Is the any other big earners at wigan?
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| Quote ="nikos"I do hope this signals that Fielden will be on his way.
Thanks Stu (and Dobbo) for saving us from the drop, but even with a better level of performances this year, he is still a shadow of the former player we signed.
Keep Coley added to signing Lima, and fill the rest with O'Carroll, Prescott, Hock?, Mossop
Use Fieldens wages to better effect'"
Disagree, the Fielden of 2010 would be a huge asset if he replicated this form in future years.
At times this year he's been outstanding whilst in almost all other games he's still played at a very good level.
I'd be very disappointed if Fielden left.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Do we A- actually believe we'd sign all five and B- Need all five? Pick one of either Lima or White and trust guys like Prescott or Davies to excel with more quality around them.
Finch, Lima & Hoffman are who we need in order of priority. Let's not go crazy here and sign everyone without looking at the whole picture.
Four out in Piggy, Feka, Phelps and Bailey and three in is excellent work. Four out and four Aussies in isn't so good IMO.'"
Correct - Four out and three in, for me.
1) We reduce an overseas player by one.
2) We give two new Wigan youngsters full time squad places (Deacon to quit and go coaching).
3) We massively bolster our pack to perhaps the best in SL 2011.
4) We bring Hock in mid season to strengthen us even more if it suits all parties.
5) Plus we obtain a top class halfback partnership with Sam & Finch.
That for me is the most sensible option.
Unless of course there is something we don't know about (Roberts / Richards wanting to leave), then we should leave this Quinn lad well alone.
50+ tries from Goulding, Richards & Roberts will do for me !
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| Quote ="St pete"If im being honest i can't see Feka and bailey being on big deals at all, i think riddel will be on a good deal but phelps will be on pretty low wage IMO.
Is the any other big earners at wigan?'"
Feka will be on a massive wedge. Guaranteed. We had to outbid yourselves to get him when Millward joined us.
Riddell will be on a fair amount as well.
Bailey won't be on a massive salary on anymore, as he renegotiated another year last year, but seeing as he came over as a Aussie rep player he will be on a decent amount as well.
Deacon won't be on nothing, not a massive amount but a reasonable chunk.
Phelps will be an avg wage.
Pryce, bit below avg.
Adding to those 5 i could also see Ainscough leaving, one of Prescott/O'Carroll, and possibly Tuson.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Correct - Four out and three in, for me.
1) We reduce an overseas player by one.
2) We give a new Wigan youngster a full time squad place.
3) We massively bolster our pack to perhaps the best in SL 2011.
4) We bring Hock in mid season to strengthen us even more if it suits all parties.
That for me is the most sensible option.
Unless of course there is something we don't know about (Roberts / Richards wanting to leave), then we should leave this Quinn lad well alone.
50+ tries from Goulding, Richards & Roberts will do for me !
Plus we obtain a top class halfback partnership'"
Reckon we'll keep Deacon on for another year?
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| Quote ="inside_man"Reckon we'll keep Deacon on for another year?'"
Forgot about him.
No - will go coaching.
Then we can recruit 2 youngsters into the squad - preferably backs.
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| Pryce I believe is staying on a one year deal. He isn't on big money (less than a third of Fekas)
Feka, Phelps, Piggy and probably Bailey to go. if Fielden also goes (but I believe he has been offered a new deal on less money) that will be a massive reduction on salary.
We were told a couple of years ago that two players were taking up almost 25% of the salary cap.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We were told a couple of years ago that two players were taking up almost 25% of the salary cap.'"
Barrett & Fielden no doubt!
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| Quote ="MattyB"Correct - Four out and three in, for me.
1) We reduce an overseas player by one.
2) We give a new Wigan youngster a full time squad place.
3) We massively bolster our pack to perhaps the best in SL 2011.
4) We bring Hock in mid season to strengthen us even more if it suits all parties.
That for me is the most sensible option.
Unless of course there is something we don't know about (Roberts / Richards wanting to leave), then we should leave this Quinn lad well alone.
50+ tries from Goulding, Richards & Roberts will do for me !
Plus we obtain a top class halfback partnership'"
The thing which gives me confidence is that all of the Potential signings are the right side of 30. If we do sign them they will Join guys like Lockers, Sam, Tommy & Joel and become the core of our squad. The rest will rotate around them.
I'd let O'Carroll leave next season and move Davis up a place.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"hoffman
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at a fair guess getting 150 grand each, I would think a few getting a bit more, maybe a few getting a bit less. So that's 1.5 mil on those lads and 160 grand, maybe if those big names play for less than Market value 200 to 250 grand to be sharded by the tomkin bros and the rest?
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| Quote ="MattyB"Barrett & Fielden no doubt!'"
Might actually be Feka and Fielden.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Barrett & Fielden no doubt!'"
No, two current players.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Pryce I believe is staying on a one year deal. He isn't on big money (less than a third of Fekas)
Feka, Phelps, Piggy and probably Bailey to go. if Fielden also goes (but I believe he has been offered a new deal on less money) that will be a massive reduction on salary.
We were told a couple of years ago that two players were taking up almost 25% of the salary cap.'"
Which two players do you think ?
Fielden and who?
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"so
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at a fair guess getting 150 grand each, I would think a few getting a bit more, maybe a few getting a bit less. So that's 1.5 mil on those lads and 160 grand, maybe if those big names play for less than Market value 200 to 250 grand to be sharded by the tomkin bros and the rest?
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Like I said, 75% is probably BS.
Having heard our Chairman speak a number of times, he would rather play a load of St Pat's & St Judes lads than go over the salary cap.
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| Quote ="St pete"Which two players do you think ?
Fielden and who?'"
Edit - Just been corrected by Yoda.
I mean Brian.
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| Quote ="St pete"Which two players do you think ?
Fielden and who?'"
I'm guessing Feka. He was rumoured to have signed on a huge deal a few years back.
It makes total sense us being linked with players like this when deals for such high earners as Fielden, Feka, Bailey etc are comign to an end. These guys were signed under Lindsay which says it all really and now Lenagan has that money to work with and he'll do a great job of investing it wisely both on new players and on developing our youngsters and rewarding them accordingly.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'm guessing Feka. He was rumoured to have signed on a huge deal a few years back.
It makes total sense us being linked with players like this when deals for such high earners as Fielden, Feka, Bailey etc are comign to an end. These guys were signed under Lindsay which says it all really and now Lenagan has that money to work with and he'll do a great job of investing it wisely both on new players and on developing our youngsters and rewarding them accordingly.'"
I can't see it being feka, if he was signed on a massive deal then thats terrible by wigan!
A player that can only last 15 mins before being fooked on a huge deal, can't see that.
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| Fielden and Feka will be the two big earners.
If i remember rightly Feka is on his second contract with us and he signed it just after his best ever year performance wise with us so he will be on a decent wedge.
Bailey will be on a good wedge for sure all the Aussies do when they come over hes played in SOO.
So Feka, Bailey and Riddell plus the lesser wages of Phelps, Deacon and poss Pryce or Ainscough.
Added to that the big wage cut to Fielden.
All = Finch, Hoffman and Lima.
I imagine the only way we'll go for White is if Fielden isnt going to accept the big wage decrease.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Like I said, 75% is probably BS.
Having heard our Chairman speak a number of times, he would rather play a load of St Pat's & St Judes lads than go over the salary cap.'"
You can't go over the cap the rl will stop any moves. Unless you are going down the Melbourne route? I've been more than fair looking at it and I know you guys arnt been serious, but 160 to 250 grand between tomkin bros hansen and the other dozen lads is a bit tight don't you think?
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| Quote ="St pete"I can't see it being feka, if he was signed on a massive deal then thats terrible by wigan!
A player that can only last 15 mins before being fooked on a huge deal, can't see that.'"
Well he WAS signed in the silly season of 2006.
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| Quote ="sgtwilko"You can't go over the cap the rl will stop any moves. Unless you are going down the Melbourne route? I've been more than fair looking at it and I know you guys arnt been serious, but 160 to 250 grand between tomkin bros hansen and the other dozen lads is a bit tight don't you think?
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Indeed but dont forget Mr Fielden is off contract at the end of this season.
That's reportedly worth 4-5 decent squad players, depending on who you listen to.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Well he WAS signed in the silly season of 2006.'"
You wonder how far back giving him that deal set wigan back.
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| Quote ="DP_wwrlfc"Fielden and Feka will be the two big earners.
If i remember rightly Feka is on his second contract with us and he signed it just after his best ever year performance wise with us so he will be on a decent wedge.
Bailey will be on a good wedge for sure all the Aussies do when they come over hes played in SOO.
So Feka, Bailey and Riddell plus the lesser wages of Phelps, Deacon and poss Pryce or Ainscough.
Added to that the big wage cut to Fielden.
All = Finch, Hoffman and Lima.
I imagine the only way we'll go for White is if Fielden isnt going to accept the big wage decrease.'"
ya not been realistic with ya cap space.
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