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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"And what on this earth makes you think Kearney is the right man?'"
I was on the wind-up, seems a lot of people think it's already a done deal
Edwards would have to be the first choice, but I can't see it happening realistically. Other than that, an experienced NRL coach would be preferable.
If we need a disciplinarian (blatantly!) Kearney might not be a bad shout.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"icon_lol.gif
I actually want some good news to come out of wigan now, it was funny (for a saints fan) at first but it all rather depressing now. Who would want to coach Wigan at this time?'"
It's got me down all this Hock thing, the Brian Noble rumours brought me around again, but gonna read a bit more of Simply Rad soon and that only depress me further, hearing what the club was to what it is now.
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"And what on this earth makes you think Kearney is the right man?'"
What on this earth makes you think Kearney is not the right man?
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| Quote ="cadoo"What on this earth makes you think Kearney is not the right man?'"
lack of first team coaching experience?
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| Quote ="jonh"Strong no nonsense character, worked with some of the finest coaches in the NRL and currently working in the game, we are not going to get a currently employed first team coach, so i feel he is a pretty strong contender.
Initially though i think it is the strength of his character, with a similar no nonsense attitude to Gregory that will stand him in good stead for the position.'"
Great hes a no nonsense character.
So was Dean Bell
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| Quote ="JTB"Contracts in management mean sod all if the right man is prepared to leave.'" Quite, how did Noble become your coach for example? Justin Morgan would be a great coach for Wigan, so much so i hope he doesn't leave HKR
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| Quote ="cadoo"What on this earth makes you think Kearney is not the right man?'"
Because there is no proof at all to say he is the right man or even a good coach.
So,you gonna answer the question of why you think he is the right man?
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| is mr hanley still on ice?
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| Anyone who will come in and ship out every player in the first team squad bar
O'Loughlin, Sam Tomkins Paul Prescott and Tommy.
The rest are she-ite and deep down we all know it no matter what tactics we employ!
Phew!!!!
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| Kearney, just off the top of my head
Pros -
*Served his time at a well run club under a good coach
*Allegidly a discliplinarian
Cons -
*No first team coaching experience
*Bennett was his assistant - to underestimate that would be a huge mistake
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| Quote ="AJ"*Bennett was his assistant - to underestimate that would be a huge mistake'"
This should be in 6 foot high capital letters.
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"Because there is no proof at all to say he is the right man or even a good coach. '"
Where is the proof to say he wont be a good coach?
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| Quote ="cadoo"Where is the proof to say he wont be a good coach?'"
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| Quote ="JTB"This should be in 6 foot high capital letters.'"
I agree.
Those that are seemingly getting swept along in the Noble going bandwagon need to be bloody careful.
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"Because there is no proof at all to say he is the right man or even a good coach.
So,you gonna answer the question of why you think he is the right man?'"
And the rest of the reasoned offered?
i do sometimes wonder if you just come on to argue, at times RHJ. People put reasons as to why they think he would be a candidate and you simply pick and chose points to respond to.
You got it wrong with Noble, lets wait to critique the appointment when it is made, after all Noble is not officially gone yet and you are already lining up to slate his replacement!!
Its great to speculate on it, but Kearney is one of the most respected coaches in Australia, been banded about for a first team job very soon, we may just steel a march. Gregory did not have the calibre he did and he came closest to turning this club around.
Why would you be so against Kearney and who would you suggest?
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| Quote ="AJ"Kearney, just off the top of my head
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*Served his time at a well run club under a good coach
*Allegidly a discliplinarian
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*No first team coaching experience
*Bennett was his assistant - to underestimate that would be a huge mistake'"
And the pros might be ok for a lesser club that does not have such high expectations as Wigan.
At Wigan though whoever comes in needs to not only be a strict disciplinarian but also a proven top class coach.
Appointing Kearney would be a massive gamble that does not need to be taken. IL needs to get his money out for a world class coach who is proven at the highest level.
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"Because there is no proof at all to say he is the right man or even a good coach.
So,you gonna answer the question of why you think he is the right man?'"
Guess coaching a team to a WORLD CUP victory isn't good enough to make you a good coach is it?
And please don't start with it was all due to Bennett because you could look at 99% of the coaches ever and knock them down;
-Noble-Only won SL due to the team Elliot put together
-Mclennan-Smith’s team
-Anderson- Milward’s team
-Monie only did what he did cause of the players he had.
At the end of the day there is only one coach in the world who has built and sustained success over a decade and that’s Bennett and sadly we aren’t going to get him.
Kearney is out best option still
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| Quote ="Captain13"Anyone who will come in and ship out every player in the first team squad bar
O'Loughlin, Sam Tomkins Paul Prescott and Tommy.
The rest are she-ite and deep down we all know it no matter what tactics we employ!
Phew!!!!'" I hope you forgot paaaaaat then mr
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| Quote ="Red Hot Jalapeno"Because there is no proof at all to say he is the right man or even a good coach.
So,you gonna answer the question of why you think he is the right man?'"
We are no more able to predict if Kearney or anyone else is the right man just as we would not have predicted Noble would turn out to be the wrong man given his previous record.
In other words we only find out after they have been in charge for a while.
I am not particularly pro Kearney for similar reasons I am not pro Lam, lack of experience but if Kearney gets the job hopefully he will be judged as Noble has been on results and how he runs the team. Noble only started to attract flack when we entered a downward spiral under his leadership. So like any new coach Kearney would have a honeymoon period and then results would be expected.
But isn't this academic? He has supposed to have turned the job down and unless Nobles sacking has been announced as I type this, Noble is still our coach.
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| McDermott or Morgan please.
Kearneys not proven at club level.
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| From what I've heard now, Noble has gone because, Hock told Noble he would fail the drugs test. Yet Noble continued to play him, and Lenegan wasn't pleased, so good by Noble.
Only what I've heard, don't shoot the messenger!
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| Quote ="- Neil -"McDermott or Morgan please.
Kearneys not proven at club level.'"
McDermott is from the Noble school so no thank you, Morgans yes, Kearney yes.
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| Quote ="jonh"And the rest of the reasoned offered?
i do sometimes wonder if you just come on to argue, at times RHJ. People put reasons as to why they think he would be a candidate and you simply pick and chose points to respond to.
You got it wrong with Noble, lets wait to critique the appointment when it is made, after all Noble is not officially gone yet and you are already lining up to slate his replacement!!
Its great to speculate on it, but Kearney is one of the most respected coaches in Australia, been banded about for a first team job very soon, we may just steel a march. Gregory did not have the calibre he did and he came closest to turning this club around.
Why would you be so against Kearney and who would you suggest? '"
I wasnt talking to you. My post was aimed at somebody who gave no reason why Kearney would be the right man.
As for me coming on to argue well no thats not quite right. Where have i argued other than saying Kearney has no experience and is completely unproven?
Why am i so against Kearney? Because he is totally unproven and Wigan need somebody who is proven not some guy who 'might' make a decent first team coach.
Who do i suggest? I suggest somebody who is proven at the highest level.
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