He his knickers when he saw Isa and Hardaker coming for him,I'm glad they didn't get to him in a way because they may have followed him off

+1

Got what he deserved. If you attack somebody. Expect retaliation.

We don't need to quote Trueman for that. They give us all sorts of reasons themselves (last night being no exception).

Flowers actions are indefensible, but Saints fans seem to have a mental blank over the cause of it...

Sky drives me mad,you’re right the pressure that lad is under is really down to them,very good player who with luck go on and become a great player,the game needs more halves with skill but he’s a long way from the finished article.

Massively agree with this. Trueman as a 20 year old has done some very good things for us (Cas) Considering he has come in and played fullback in 2018 as we never replaced Zak then went back to halfback and has never really had a settled partner alongside him (think we have used 6 different halves with him!) I just wish the fan fare settled down a bit as the pressure can sometimes get to the young ones like him. It was similar to Joe Westerman when he was with us. Huge praise and he never materialised into what people thought.

I was annoyed he got a red tbh

only because he avoided a pummelling of our lads

Partington is one of these players you love if he plays for you, but would hate if he played for anybody else. For what its worth I hate all the clapping other player's mistakes, ruffling their hair, patting them on the head etc. I know its part of the game, but it just annoys me.

Roughly on the same subject, how long will it take Jackson Hastings to turn from all round good bloke, sensational player etc to 'insert rodent here' boy when he starts playing for Wigan

I already told him when they played wire after wembley

Roughly .3 of a second into his first game

I am not. Powell also said he was world class, hence my comment.

I actually like the lad and think he has bags of potential, but that is a long way from claiming he is world class! The biggest mistake he made was choosing Castleford over Wigan.

I hope so, that will signal that opposition fans are envious and worried.

Partington will cost you dearly in a big game if he carries on with the housery.

He did something similar in the championship last year for Swinton and someone whacked him, didn't see him much after that.

As good of a player as he is and could be refs will eventually wise up to it and the penalties will go the other way.

What housery is that?

We’ll see but he looks a master of his craft to me. He’s winding the opposition up, not the other way round and there’s probably two things that could happen. He either gets an opposition player penalised (or worse) or an opposition player legally belts him (which hasn’t happened so far).

FWIW i would much rather he concentrated on being a very good and very promising rugby league player than the 'antics'. He has got a reputation already and has put a big target on his back saying 'smash me' It is a very unusual trait to have, seems hell bent on winding the opposition up. I know young lads are cocky and young rugby league players in particular. Takes a while to mature if at all. He doesn't need to do it for me. Let his rugby do the talking.

People go on about how there are no hard men in rugby anymore, then disapprove when a young prop throws his weight around a bit. I'm sure Fielden, Morley, McDermott etc all did far worse coming through the ranks. Cas fans crying about a 21 year old ruffling up their player's hair are priceless, god knows what they said in the 80s when it seemed to be like the wild west at times from what I can gather. Putting a target on your back can be a good distraction for the opposition as well. Back when Bailey was good, he used to do that. I remember our lads totally losing their heads in a play off game because of him, think it was 04.

I disagree, he’s a limited player when it comes to running a ball but he’s brilliant in defence and he’s found a role in the side by setting a tempo and ruffling feathers. He’s a young kid and will chill out over time but we can’t curb that side if him or else he won’t be half the player. He’s like Micky Mac was at 20/21 and it’s helping him forge a career. If he’s happy to carry a target on his back then great. Him getting people to target him won’t do anybody else any harm.

I think you are spot on there Nicky. Take the niggle out of his game and he wouldn't be as effective. I don't remember him giving away many penalties either.

Shithouserry?
Whens this because I've missed it?
That describes to me someone who's eye gouged, punched someone on the floor, from behind, dropped knees, hed butted, forearmed or bitten someone.
Not a 20/21 year old lad who's done no more than run as hard as he can, hits as hard as he can and tried to show some of the older heads in SL that hes prepared to go Toe to Toe with them and not take a backward step.
His actual ability isnt all that currently, so fair play to him for "Having a go" and him and Smithies are doing nothing more than having a good crack.

PS
Watch how he puts smithies in for the last try. Just as the precious tackle is being completed hes already telling Byrne to run and where Smithies needs to be (he says something to him that I cant quite make out).

PPS

Previous poster says went missing etc.
Not sure how taking the next hit up, makes numerous tackles and then a few minutes later is setting up the final try.
Coward, yeah alright!

He’s certainly no coward. A kid who’d just been hammered by three Cas defenders with a 4th trying to knee drop him had no problem taking the next carry in after the penalty.

He’s a joy to watch for me and takes me back to some of my favourite players like Micky Mac and Terry Newton.

Spot on Jukes.
No foul play just playing it hard.
I love it. The 3 youngsters are great to watch even though they are far from the finished article. Their desire and work rate is fantastic to witness and has made my visits to the jjb enjoyable again.

It’s that aggression that really brings a smile to your face as a fan. We’ve produced some talented forwards over the years, such as Mossop, Prescott and even Sutton (to a lesser extent) but I’ve always felt we were experts at producing forwards who seem like thoroughly decent human beings but there’s nothing like natural aggression on the field, especially when you’re playing in the middle.

Got sick and tired of listening on sky and the 40twenty podcasts moaning about him winding people up..bloody hell boo hoo jake Connor does it all the time but he described as a genius by those muppets in the media,yes someone will take exception to it but the lads seems to be hewn from teak and will give back as good as he gets.