Not now though. Can't be, It's in the public domain now. The club HAVE to be seen to take action. There is only one action that can be taken and it must be done.

If that is true, not saying it isn’t, then you have to question the leadership at the club.

Culture is so important, excusing behaviour like this sends a message to everyone at the club and highlights how poor the culture is.

If the decision makers at the club are clever, they launch an investigation and quickly resolve this matter by terminating the contracts of Joel and Sam Tomkins for breaching their contracts by bringing the club into disrepute.

The cynic in me says that Sam is already off at the end of the season anyway and Joel is nowhere near the player he once was. Easy PR win whilst saving some money on the books and not significantly reducing the quality of the team.

You are of course right but I would go further. If the club knew about this I would be disgusted that they haven't already taken the only course of action available to them.

But they might not have seen the video though. They may have heard about it. If the girl had sent the video to the club and they REALLY wanted to sweep it under the carpet they would have paid her to delete it im sure. That's what i would do and pretty sure the club would have thought of that if they knew and wanted to hide it. If nobody had seen the video then this put's a completely different spin on it. Although Albert Kelly reprimand for his shocking abuse of the girl in McDonald's got him a new contract! so you never know. Also, people from the club read these boards, they will see the reaction of the fans and what we think and will know how we want it dealt with. Phil Clarke admitted on the podcast that he reads them. Hello Phil

I wonder if this video as anything to do with Wane leaving

this was three weeks ago sunday night in 15, after a christening at aspull civic.

Also... Zak Hardaker's contract will be absolutely packed with termination stipulations etc. He will be watching this situation very closely i am sure. This put's the club in an untenable position IMO.

No issue with Sam for me - Other than him being drunk, when he supposed to be a professional "athlete". He just seemed to be trying to get his gobshïte of a brother to leave (admittedly not trying very hard)

Joel is an absolute cockwomble and is lucky not to have had the police involved for going after the barmaid.

Not sure how old the video is, but if it was anything like recent (this year some time) and especially if it was after the season started, there should be a club suspension/fine imposed.

If this is correct it puts the timing and sudden nature of Wane's resignation into context perhaps?

I wouldn't sack them at all.
The club must instigate an investigation.
If their contracts allow it I think they should both be suspended without pay until the investigation is concluded.
From there, disciplinary action as appropriate.
In this way they are still employed and registered at Wigan and no one else can sign them.
As has been said, they cannot represent the club until matters are concluded.

Can’t believe some suggesting Sam did nothing wrong. He fact he did nothing was wrong. It’s his brother for god sake - why isn’t he dragging him out the place? His lack of actions to prevent the disgusting tirade of abuse, is as bad as the abuse, for me.

I was gobby in a pub onetime, when i turned around my brother was stood there holding my coat, and gesturing towards the door...

While I don't agree that his lack of action makes it just as bad, it is still bad and he should be called out on it. He was clearly in the wrong initially when they both refused to leave. He was also the only person there in a position to step in and prevent his brother from acting in an intimidating and abusive manner and didn't. He really didn't try very hard to step in

Yes, I agree.

I think it must be from a while ago as Sam's beard is much shorter than today. The lady did point out to them that they were also on CCTV. She also came over as a brave lass for standing up to them.

She also said Sam you have gone quiet since I started filming, so by that token he was more than likely spewing out abuse too, the tomkins brothers have always been b*llends

Two absolute di3ks i hope there are not fans condoning that behaviour, that could have been anyones family members working there, I have no tolerance for this sort of behaviour. Lost all respect for the pair of them. They deserve the embarrassment this causes. I hope its all over web.

Sam was clearly being an absolute Muppet as well until he realised he was on camera.

heard this story from a regular of little fifteen in standish, friday before Magic Weekend. If you listen to the video, one of the girls indicates that Sam stopped the abuse once he knew that they were being filmed. Not good at all this better than you attitude. Loved Sam and Joel at their peak, but this is some time ago now, get rid of the pair for me !

....and in other news....water announced to be wet.

hardly the first time, foot injury not long ago.....

If what some have said is true and this is from a few weeks ago before SW’s departure it makes the whole situation very intriguing. If by club also knew and tried to cover it up by way of paying the victims off, as had been rumoured, then the club is an utter disgrace and if I were ZH I’d be seriously reconsidering signing. If that were him without a shadow of a doubt he would never wear the cherry and white jersey.

It happened about five weeks ago, pre Sam to Catalan and Wanes resignation.

The faux outrage brigade out in force as usual whenever there’s a pile on to be had.

Who seriously thinks it’s an appropriate punishment for a person to lose their livelihood because they were being an idiot when they were drunk. Oh he called someone a scruff, the f*cking horror!

The lot of you should be thankful that nobody gives a sh*t about you enough to record you when you’re out being a tw*t.

Why would ZH do that? He's hardly been the model professional in the past. If the club don't act surely ZH behaving likewise would not cause anyone at the club to bat an eyelid and he'd have every confidence if he were to be a similar bell end the club would cover it up. I am not sure such a lax attitude to off field discipline by the club would put him off. I think the more important issue re ZH is if the club want to keep ZH on the straight and narrow they need to act on this video.