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| Interesting signing a SR/Centre when we've just released Jack Hughes (who is a SR/centre himself).
Even though he's recently been moved into the back row I think Wigan will use him as a centre, or simply utility cover in both centres and forwards when needs must (something Jack could have done). This wouldn't be uncommon both Phil Bailey and Gene Miles were playing the back row then moved into the centres when at Wigan.
Saying this I also wouldn't be surprised if Isa was one of our starting centres come next season, the 'Sarg to union' rumour is still doing the rounds, and it seems that Gelling is on the naughty step after recent blunders. Gildart has impressed but is still very young and somewhat underweight for a centre (undoubtedly overtime he'll fill out) and Bateman is better in the pack, which leaves a void in the centre spot.
Isa has an opportunity if he impresses to be a first team player at Wigan, that alone should inspire him to playing well. I look forward to him at Wigan next season.
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| Quote ="Orrell Lad"People - myself included - could do well to remember the outrage when we signed Tony Clubb. What a signing he's turned out to be. Wigan will bring the best out of Isa.'"
Enough said really.
He's a cheap gamble and we can't really lose.
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| As a Widnes fan i must say i was gutted when i found out he was leaving us. He started out in the but moved to the wing due to poor defensive reads. He never really has i high return in terms of tries.
He was given the chance in the second row as an impact sub and has been great. In the middle of the park he can hit hard in defense and made some good hard yards. The only down side is he can give away a soft penalty or two but when on he did had a bit of steel to are side.
Seems to be really popular with other players in the side and i cult figure and Widnes.
I wish him all the best for the future its just a shame it was not at Widnes
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| you really didnt want to keep patrick did you!
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| Quote ="brearley84"you really didnt want to keep patrick did you!'"
That would have cost money as a transfer fee would have been payable to Hudds and it's pretty clear from Wane's comments when it was announced he was leaving that wasn't an option.
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| Quote ="brearley84"you really didnt want to keep patrick did you!'"
He's found form now but been rubbish for 90% of the season, a massive disappointment
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| I was surprised but happy to hear about this signing.
To end all the debates about his position, he has said himself on Wigan TV that Wane sees him almost exclusively as a 'middle' i.e. Loose Forward and i'd presume occasional backrow. I'd presume he's too small for prop.
He is a replacement for Larne Patrick. With Lockers getting older, picking up knocks and Bateman still having utility value at centre it will be good to have a player who can play in the 13 role and tackle hard.
Isa tackles hard, carries the ball directly and is quick off the line. However from what I've seen he does have the occasional penalty in him and error too. Hopefully his performances and intensity outweigh any mistakes he makes. Of course, he's not a star signing and he wont be starting many games Id expect but his salary will reflect this and he is someone I'm glad we've got in the team.
I was happy this was announced because lets not forget it was only weeks ago that Wane publicly stated he didnt expect us to sign anyone other than Tomkins for next season and with Larne Patrick going I thought we would be a bit light of forwards in the squad.
Lots of you are saying you are underwhelmed by this and maybe understandably. But look at how other players we've signed have turned out. Nobody expected anything from Clubb but yet he's probably been our best Prop this season. Whereas everyone was raving happy and over the moon when we signed Larne Patrick yet he has hardly set the DW Stadium alight with his performances.
As I've mentioned, I do fear that his error and penalty count could pose a bit of a problem and I hope he doesn't go down the Tautai route where his errors outweigh any positives he achieves in the match but I'm definitely glad we've signed him. I also presume this means Greg Burke wont be with us next year either.
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| Quote ="Murray"I was surprised but happy to hear about this signing.
To end all the debates about his position, he has said himself on Wigan TV that Wane sees him almost exclusively as a 'middle' i.e. Loose Forward and i'd presume occasional backrow. I'd presume he's too small for prop.
He is a replacement for Larne Patrick. With Lockers getting older, picking up knocks and Bateman still having utility value at centre it will be good to have a player who can play in the 13 role and tackle hard.
Isa tackles hard, carries the ball directly and is quick off the line. However from what I've seen he does have the occasional penalty in him and error too. Hopefully his performances and intensity outweigh any mistakes he makes. Of course, he's not a star signing and he wont be starting many games Id expect but his salary will reflect this and he is someone I'm glad we've got in the team.
I was happy this was announced because lets not forget it was only weeks ago that Wane publicly stated he didnt expect us to sign anyone other than Tomkins for next season and with Larne Patrick going I thought we would be a bit light of forwards in the squad.
Lots of you are saying you are underwhelmed by this and maybe understandably. But look at how other players we've signed have turned out. Nobody expected anything from Clubb but yet he's probably been our best Prop this season. Whereas everyone was raving happy and over the moon when we signed Larne Patrick yet he has hardly set the DW Stadium alight with his performances.
As I've mentioned, I do fear that his error and penalty count could pose a bit of a problem and I hope he doesn't go down the Tautai route where his errors outweigh any positives he achieves in the match but I'm definitely glad we've signed him. I also presume this means Greg Burke wont be with us next year either.'"
Pretty much how I felt when I'd heard we had signed him, I have a couple of friends who work at Widnes, and they have always spoke very highly of him and with the news today both have told me they're gutted he's come to us. A couple of other clubs were also chasing him, a team he's played for over here before and one of our noisy neighbours. I'll be looking forward to see how he develops at Wigan, and under Wane in particular.
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| I have to wonder how far off we are spending to the full salary cap and whether 2+ years without a trip to Wembley or winning the league leaders is the reason for it.
We have let an incredible amount of talent go and replaced them with juniors. I'm glad that the likes of Manfredi, Powell, etc. are getting chances and taking them but are Wane's hands being forced? Before anyone starts, I am assuming this is the final signing we will make and we haven't scooped a SOO prop from Australia.
Just this year we will be losing Bowen, Burgess, Thornley, L.Tomkins, Patrick and Hughes (plus Greenwood and Lloyd?). Obviously Sam will take most of that wage deficit but even last year we lost Goulding, Green, Taylor, Pettybourne, James and Burke (loan) and only signed Patrick and Tautai.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I have to wonder how far off we are the full salary cap and whether 2+ years without a trip to Wembley or winning the league leaders is the reason for it.
We have let an incredible amount of talent go and replaced them with juniors. I'm glad that the likes of Manfredi, Powell, etc. are getting chances and taking them but are Wane's hands being forced? Before anyone starts, I am assuming this is the final signing we will make and we haven't scooped a SOO prop from Australia.
Just this year we will be losing Bowen, Burgess, Thornley, L.Tomkins, Patrick and Hughes (plus Greenwood and Lloyd?). Obviously Sam will take most of that wage deficit but even last year we lost Goulding, Green, Taylor, Pettybourne, James and Burke (loan) and only signed Patrick and Tautai.'"
Don't forget the guys who stay will want wage increases and the new youngsters will want paying. Patrick was only a loan player so doesn't count (or if you do count him, you shouldn't count Hughes)
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| The guy who told me he had signed said it was SW signing and that he was signed as a back row forward.
Good to see the comments from the Chemic fans so hopefully he will be as a few have stated a signing in the Clubb mould rather than a Pettybourne.
Sarginson is leaving and has agreed a deal with Bath. After his rehab and hopefully his all clear he will then join up with Bath. The deal was to good to turn down from Sarginson's point of view and the move delayed because of his serious injury. I can only assume that there is no announcement on this because his injury is very serious and there are no 100% guarantees that he will make a full recovery.
Hopefully this is the first of a couple of signings with a centre at the top of the list.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"He's found form now but been rubbish for 90% of the season, a massive disappointment'"
didnt really want him back
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| Quote ="brearley84"didnt really want him back
would have been liked to keep hughes been great for us this season'"
I was suprised he didn't sign for you to be honest, I like your prospects better than Warrington's going forward
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| Brilliant signing, can't wait to see him play
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| i think Wigan have done well to get Isa especially if he has come cheap , Hughes is a good signing for Warrington , Huddersfield are the losers as Hughes as been good for them and they are both better than the very average Patrick .
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| posted the below on our board for the Wigan fans wondering about him.
Good player, disappointed he's left us as he's a real fan favourite.
Started out as centre with us when we signed him from Castleford but he was to indecisive and struggled making decisions in defence and attack. After a few seasons he asked Denis could he have a go in the pack and since then he hasn't looked back. He does a tonne of work that goes unnoticed and he's a little bit different to your normal pack players in terms of him still having decent speed and he's full of energy, he isn't afraid to belt people either and has come on each season since.
Check out his stats on the super league site when he's played and he's a regular in the top 3 defensively and in terms of carries for us.
Cracking player for the community as well, you will learn to love him over time.
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| Quote ="-VIKINGMAN-"posted the below on our board for the Wigan fans wondering about him.
Good player, disappointed he's left us as he's a real fan favourite.
Started out as centre with us when we signed him from Castleford but he was to indecisive and struggled making decisions in defence and attack. After a few seasons he asked Denis could he have a go in the pack and since then he hasn't looked back. He does a tonne of work that goes unnoticed and he's a little bit different to your normal pack players in terms of him still having decent speed and he's full of energy, he isn't afraid to belt people either and has come on each season since.
Check out his stats on the super league site when he's played and he's a regular in the top 3 defensively and in terms of carries for us.
Cracking player for the community as well, you will learn to love him over time.'"
That will do for me.
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| Quote ="Itchy Arsenal"The guy who told me he had signed said it was SW signing and that he was signed as a back row forward.
Good to see the comments from the Chemic fans so hopefully he will be as a few have stated a signing in the Clubb mould rather than a Pettybourne.
Sarginson is leaving and has agreed a deal with Bath. After his rehab and hopefully his all clear he will then join up with Bath. The deal was to good to turn down from Sarginson's point of view and the move delayed because of his serious injury. I can only assume that there is no announcement on this because his injury is very serious and there are no 100% guarantees that he will make a full recovery.
Hopefully this is the first of a couple of signings with a centre at the top of the list.'"
So we're going to nurse Sarginson back to health then let him leave for Bath?
What's in it for us, exactly?
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| Quote ="P-J"So we're going to nurse Sarginson back to health then let him leave for Bath?
What's in it for us, exactly?'"
Probably a fee
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| Quote ="[Gareth"Probably a fee'"
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| Quote ="P-J"So we're going to nurse Sarginson back to health then let him leave for Bath?
What's in it for us, exactly?'"
How about Kyle Eastmond? With Sarg they'll have an abundance of centres? Sammy B, John Joseph, Matt B etc.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"I was suprised he didn't sign for you to be honest, I like your prospects better than Warrington's going forward'"
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| I think this signing could have been a misunderstanding. Do you think Lenegan was actually advising Rads and Wane to invest in an ISA?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"=#FF0000How about Kyle Eastmond? With Sarg they'll have an abundance of centres? Sammy B, John Joseph, Matt B etc.'"
He did a good job at Stains. But he'll be ruined by Yawnion, and will take at least a year to get his RL fitness back. Joel Tomkins still hasn't recovered.
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| Quote ="Smooth Stu"He did a good job at Stains. But he'll be ruined by Yawnion, and will take at least a year to get his RL fitness back. Joel Tomkins still hasn't recovered.'"
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