Quoting the Carmont signing shows just how out if touch you are, totally different time with different cap rules and a much lower market value on overseas players.

Gelling is still young, 24, and is improving every season. He was recommended to Wigan by Dean Bell and the Iro's (what would they know about centres?). Whilst clearly he has areas to improve on he is improving and becoming a better player. On his day in SL he is almost unplayable due to his size and strength.

A 4 year deal gives him the security to continue working on his game, it gives us some consistency in our outside backs and increases the potential value of our asset should the NRL come knocking, as, as you often say contracts are not worth the paper they are written on.

It seems to me and others that you have become extremely negative boardering on bitter towards the club for some reason, either that it you have just become very negative generally. The club doesn't seem to be able to do anything right, and whilst they are your opinions I think more and more people are taking them with a pinch of salt because of what could be construed as an agenda against the clubs management for some reason. I'm not suggesting this is the case but it could be interpreted that way.

I disagree with DaveO but hope he sticks to his guns. I for one like to see a bit of balance on here and he provides that, as did Jonh when he criticised SW recently. Funny how Jonh doesn't attract the ire of the pack in the way that DaveO does, though....

I concur. It would be extremely boring around here if everyone agreed.

Stick to it Dave, you miserable git

I've got an idea why but I'll leave it at that.

As someone who's stuck up for Gelling from day one I'm more than happy with this.
We miss his kick return, big yards coming from our own line/half & he puts doubt in defences minds due to his unpredictablility and his size often causses teams to double up on him leaving space elsewhere.
He's our version of Masoe in a different position, not orthodox, not a classic player in that position but if teams let him dictate and don't deal with his threat the rest of the team play off the back of it.

Do we know what Wigan are paying him? Because without that bit of knowledge how can we judge whether he's worth it?

It may be that we could offer him the safety of a long contract to compensate for the relatively poor salary? Just a thought.