This is interesting:

Another thing that hasn't been mentioned in the press release is the structure for the academy for 2015. It's probably more important for the future of the game than changing to the 12 x 12 to 8 x 8 x 8 format.

The present one system u19's has been an abject failure IMO.

A bit of info about how Leeds' season tickets will be structured next year... www.rhinosmemberships.com/memberships

A bit of info about how Leeds' season tickets will be structured next year... www.rhinosmemberships.com/memberships

I'm all for change but only if the change is for the better and I can't really see where the improvement will come with this merry-go-round. The system isn't new therefore the RL haven't dreamt it up themselves and lets face they never introduce anything new its always hand me downs from the NRL or manipulated from other sports. I won't condemn it entirely but nor will I greet it with open arms. One thing it has guaranteed is that after 35yrs as a Wigan supporter my season ticket won't be renewed as I don't pay super league prices to potentially watch my team play championship opposition at the back end of the season.

First round out the super 8s should have been Magic Weekend IMO. Other than that really happy with the move. Top 8 play offs were a joke and I've always hated that the regular season has been so unimportant. Look at the league table this year, the battle between us, Saints, Leeds, Cas, Wire and Hudds to make the top 4 would be really fierce and potentially make our last two games (Leeds and Wire) must-win. As it is I expect us to rest quite a few and not really throw everything into winning either with the play offs round the corner. Ideally I'd have preferred the play offs to be like so as well:

Week 1 - Qualifiers
A 1 v 2
B 3 v 4

Week 2 - Final Eliminator
C Loser A v Winner B

Week 3 - Final
D - Winner A v Winner C

That system means you have to beat everyone who finished above you to be champions, guarantees either 1st or 2nd will play in the grand final and makes winning from 3rd or 4th a more challenge (3 wins on the bounce when 1st or 2nd can win 1, rest a week then win another or lose then win 2). When it comes to the play offs there's not a lot of reward gained by finishing higher than 4th under either the current system or the new one which needs looking at IMO.

This is the attitude that completely baffles me. So you're expecting Wigan to finish in the bottom 4 next season then, because that's the only way we'll face Champs opposition next year? If anything you'll get more value from a season ticket because you'll get to see 3 or 4 games against Leeds/Saints/Warrington/Hudds etc in place of the London and Bradford games.

But if you prefer watching us beat Bradford 84-6 as opposed to a close game against top 8 opposition in a more meaningful league system then you go ahead and get rid of you're season ticket.

And your reply is exactly as I would have expected. Of course I don't expect Wigan to be in the bottom four. I don't like the concept of this proposal, a proposal that has already failed in football. I used to look forward to playing saints twice in a season, they were the games that I really couldn't wait to arrive but this new concept means we could be playing them five or six times in a season, that's what I don't like and no its not born out of fear its born out of monotony. We are slowly turning super league into the Scottish premiership. I don't consider it a meaningful league I consider it a pointless league, a league that will have the same teams competing in the same top eight positions every season, all it does is to give the championship sides more opportunity to enter super league end of. I will hold back on purchasing a season ticket next season because I won't pay for something that I don't agree with.

Why we can't just have a 12 team league with 22/23 games I don't know.

Why do we have to do the top 8, bottom 4, top 4, bottom 4 nonsense?

Some teams in the top 8 will have more home games than others, then of course the top 4 Championship sides are playing against full-time opposition with more money to spend on the salary cap in a bid to be promoted to a league that they don't have the money/time to prepare for.

Not exactly a fair system that gives every one the same chance is it really?

I couldn't agree more

A few good points there, I suppose we’ll have to wait and see if the answers are forthcoming, or maybe in the end someone at the RFL HQ my just take the phone off the hook. Only time will tell, so I’ll hold on before passing judgement.

But everything that you disagree with has been a problem under the current system also, why is it taking the move to the next structure to decide everything is pointless? We played Saints 6 times in 2011 and 4 times in 2012 under the current system, why weren't you jacking in your season ticket then? This year we have had the most competitive race for the top 4 and top 8, with only 2 whipping boys who are gone next season.

Leeds and Salford have introduced their season ticket packages which will cover all pre and post split games bar a potential final 1 v 4, 2 v 3 playoff.

Don't really see how the new system will hit season ticket sales if all clubs do the same (as I'm sure they will).

If this has been the most competitive (which it has) then why change it now? My argument is that since 1996 rugby league has constantly been chopped and changed to apparently better the league, yet we still have the same teams winning year in year out, we will again change the format and we will still have the same teams winning it, so my point is..... Why change it?

If Wigan hadn't won eight consecutive challenge cups and five successive doubles, would we be playing summer rugby? I know it doesn't relate to the post but I'm just after people's initial response.

No...

Because there have still been 2 whipping boys, so the league needs reducing, for starters. I agree that changing the league structure won't automatically make more teams challenging to be champions, it's up to the clubs themselves to change that. But what this structure gives us is more games between the better teams, and fewer games between title contenders and teams that simply aren't good enough, which often end up as dull training exercises.

I don't understand specifically what you think it is that makes the current system better than the incoming one? Yes it's odd with the leagues splitting, but a lot of people seems to think that's automatically bad and would much rather have us playing to a football league-style structure, which wouldn't work in RL in a million years.

Can anyone tell me if you will still get something for annual winning the league? Akin to the current leaders shield?

The same thing I assume, not that it really matters to anyone but the winners

I like both of these ideas. Starting the Super 8 with the Magic weekend would add extra spice to the fixture and it would avoid the uneven number of home and away fixtures in the super 8 phase. If the qualifiers were included then it would add an extra game to the Magic weekend meaning 4 games each day. It would be great for the Championship clubs giving them a big day experience. It would add further incentive for the championship teams outside the top four to finish inside the top to qualify for the Magic weekend.

I also like your top 4 play-off system which is the same principle as the old top 5 system. I think that is fairer and would produce some great games. The first game 1v2 with the winner going straight to the GF would be a corker as it used to be with the old top 6 system. It also gives more value to finishing in the top 2 whereas a straight top four play-off could encourage teams to 'play the system' and finish 4th then going all out in the play-offs.

I still don't like the idea and ultimately i think it will fall flat on its face, thats not wishful thinking thats just my opinion. Yes the super league needs a change as it has become stagnant and dare i say it boring this is also reflected in attendances, however i don't think that this concept is the way forward.

You acknowledge that there needs to be a change and yet your posts don't offer a solution. You have a said alot about what you don't like. How about offering some suggestions about what you think would work?

I don't know the solution but I don't think splitting a league into three is the answer. The people at red hall get paid the big bucks to make decisions, I pay my money to be entertained.

After just getting home from the game I didn't really see any whipping boys in Bradford shirts, I rest my case.

Haha yeh today's result definitely means we shouldn't replace the current structure. Clutching at straws or what!!

What aboit the rest of the season? They've lost 17 games out of 22 and let in an average of nearly 40 points a game. They have come up with a massive shock result, but they're still the whipping boys and don't belong in the league currently. Hopefully they will rebuild in the Championship and come back stronger