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| I am made up for Shaun Wane after reading some of the nonesense that I have seen posted about him on these forums. From Day 1 he wasnt even given a chance by some posters who have tried to leap onto anything that has gone wrong to blame Wane. These attacks often seem to stem from a personal dislike than any rugby ones. well done Shaun
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| Did i just hear someone open a can of worms....
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I know he is not every-bodies cup of tea, but just seen this on Twitter..
Neil Barraclough @neilbarraclough
Ian Lenagan has just revealed today's win at Wembley means an extra year for Shaun Wane. He's now got a deal running until the end of 2015.'"
He said he would do this [ibefore[/i the final. If he won it, Wane would get an extra year. I must admit I found it a very strange thing because had we lost, Wane would have the one year extension already agreed so he'd have still been the coach minus the vote of confidence from IL of an extra year. It's all by the by now but I thought it was weird.
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| I thought the whole business of Wane's future has been badly handled in the weeks before the Final. My take on it is like this: the coach wanted to know where he stood but the chairman wanted to hold a win at Wembley over him before he'd agree to any discussion. The coach got miffed and started to explore other options whilst not that subtly letting slip that he was talking to NZ Warriors (although probably not for a head coach role). In combination with the soap opera surrounding Sam's situation, this created a lot of uncertainty off-the-field which showed itself on the field as our form dipped. Chairman saw this and thought "oh crap, we may blow the final because of this" and offered Wane another year just before the Final with the promise of a further extension if he won.
All speculation on my part of course, but not too impressed with IL if I'm only half right.
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| Quote ="phibes"I thought the whole business of Wane's future has been badly handled in the weeks before the Final. My take on it is like this: the coach wanted to know where he stood but the chairman wanted to hold a win at Wembley over him before he'd agree to any discussion. The coach got miffed and started to explore other options whilst not that subtly letting slip that he was talking to NZ Warriors (although probably not for a head coach role). In combination with the soap opera surrounding Sam's situation, this created a lot of uncertainty off-the-field which showed itself on the field as our form dipped. Chairman saw this and thought "oh crap, we may blow the final because of this" and offered Wane another year just before the Final with the promise of a further extension if he won.
All speculation on my part of course, but not too impressed with IL if I'm only half right.'"
Probably not far off the mark - it's no coincidence that the form has dipped whilst this farcical "who's in, who's out" bovine excrement has been carrying on - if we can thrash Leeds one year with the creche, then can't string a coherent play together with "only" an couple of key players out the next, there has to be something else wrong.
Aside from the uncertainty it can't but help create for the squad, it's insulting to the fans who pay good money to trot along every other week.
I listened to 606 over the weekend (on the drive back from Laahndan) & had a good giggle at the whining about who's thrown their dummy out in Newcastle, or whether Shrek was being held back by his vindictive new/old boss. But then you look at our own saga & I wonder is there really much difference in the way the fee payers are being tret?
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| Quote ="phibes"I thought the whole business of Wane's future has been badly handled in the weeks before the Final. My take on it is like this: the coach wanted to know where he stood but the chairman wanted to hold a win at Wembley over him before he'd agree to any discussion. The coach got miffed and started to explore other options whilst not that subtly letting slip that he was talking to NZ Warriors (although probably not for a head coach role). In combination with the soap opera surrounding Sam's situation, this created a lot of uncertainty off-the-field which showed itself on the field as our form dipped. Chairman saw this and thought "oh crap, we may blow the final because of this" and offered Wane another year just before the Final with the promise of a further extension if he won.
All speculation on my part of course, but not too impressed with IL if I'm only half right.'"
I think it fair to assume that we know little/nothing about the dealings between the chairman and his staff, just as we know little about your dealings with your employer. But, it won't stop people speculating on scant or little concrete information.. My view is, i don't know, and no amount of speculation will give me an answer.
What i would add is that overall i'm very happy with where IL has taken the club, from the dark dark days of 2006. Whether you like him or not, i'm sure many other teams, or indeed most other teams would like to be in our position right now.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"I think it fair to assume that we know little/nothing about the dealings between the chairman and his staff, just as we know little about your dealings with your employer. But, it won't stop people speculating on scant or little concrete information.. My view is, i don't know, and no amount of speculation will give me an answer.
What i would add is that overall i'm very happy with where IL has taken the club, from the dark dark days of 2006. Whether you like him or not, i'm sure many other teams, or indeed most other teams would like to be in our position right now.'"
That's what speculation is and I don't understand why speculation or guesswork isn't legitimate fodder for discussion. This is a discussion board after all.
I agree with everything you say in the second paragraph, I've met the chairman and he seems like a really sound bloke who cares passionately about the club. But the timing of Wane's contract extension and the wording was odd and that's the only thing I was referring to and speculating about.
You don't have to be 100% for him or 100% against him, you do understand that don't you?
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| Quote ="phibes"That's what speculation is and I don't understand why speculation or guesswork isn't legitimate fodder for discussion. This is a discussion board after all.
I agree with everything you say in the second paragraph, I've met the chairman and he seems like a really sound bloke who cares passionately about the club. But the timing of Wane's contract extension and the wording was odd and that's the only thing I was referring to and speculating about.
You don't have to be 100% for him or 100% against him, you do understand that don't you?'"
Indeed i do, and have been critical about the lack of, what i would call, top quality signings.
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