Well he does look a little long limbed and rangy, but he is still a young chap (22)... I'm 6' 2", and was a strong 14st in my pomp, i would not have liked to have tackled him, fearless as i was. I would imagine he is quite a handful for many "backs".

I like him, I have since we signed him. I'd like to see him in the second row or centres though.

Not good enough for Wigan or a top SL club. Decent build but limited evasion skills, no sense of positioning and timing when supporting a runner, basic errors showboating a try rather than getting as close to the sticks as he possibly can. H will always have his fans at Wigan in a similar vein to Cameron Phelps but their logic will be anything but RL talent.

My logic for liking Gelling is based solely on the basis of talent and nothing else. I'm not sure what else you can base it on?

He might not have a wicked step BUT he's hard to put down, makes decent yards when we are in front of our own sticks and is deceptively quick when at full tilt. From his time in the academy at centre he looked a different player.

For me he could easily be a Keith Senior type of centre. Senior as player had no finesse in his game but did possess an ability to break the line and was a magnet when it came to attracting defenders to him. Gelling can be that player as once he's blasted through at centre it's going to attract more players to him next time.

To be totally honest, i've never really rated him as a winger. Everytime he gets the ball i get nervous. I'd like to see him in his proper position, centre. We might see the real Anthony Gelling then. If Waney keeps playing him on the wing, he will never prove himself. If im right he has signed again so hopefully we'll get to see him in the centre position.

Senior had very good footwork and excellent handling ability. Your comparison renders your view of Gelling worthless.

I'm not taking it to heart, but, in your post the points you make are idiotic, to put it mildly. That's my opinion.

In your opinion of course.

It's becoming a common trait on this board that people simply shoot down others who don't agree with them.

Your opinion regarding basic errors such as show boating whilst in the act of scoring is neither here or there as not only is it something that can easily be cut out of his game but it's not a regular occurrence either. It's funny how people forget him commitment to get over the line which has already cost him an injury this season.

Keith was in no way shape or form a 'stepper' of a centre nor was his footwork the basis of his game. You also talk as if Gelling doesn't posses any sort of footwork either.

The same SP that referred to another poster in another thread as an idiot for merely having an opinion contrary to his own. If you want to be treated seriouslt then come to the table with a better compaison of a RL rookie / nobody versus a British international, highly decorated winger / centre who played what just short of 500 games Seniors game was based around great speed for size, a very effective step and a big fend. I am a Wigan follower but strewth even I can give players from other clubs some credit. Go to the Rhinos forum and spoit your far fetched view and see how many laugh. Better still do not whine when you insult posters yourself. Pot, Kettle, Black etc etc.

Brilliant post there full of sweeping statements and yet more assumptions based upon nothing but what seems to be your own sense of superiority.

First of all my comment calling another poster an idiot wasn't because of their view point being different to mine. Putting the word FACT after a post just makes a person seem like a sanctimonious tool. I have no issues with people having a different view point to mine and in fact I welcome it as it makes the forum better. If the person thinks Gelling will never be 'Wigan class' and makes a case as to why then that's fine by me. Instead the poster in question took the lazy option.

Secondly your statement that anyone who likes Gelling is somehow basing it on none playing issues is laughable. I'm still not sure what these other factors are btw as I don't know the guy off the pitch so my views are based how I've seen him perform. It's strange that you'd put that at the end of your argument as up to that point i have to admit i didn't agree with what you put BUT at least you'd structured your opinion into reasonable arguments.

I'd also like to know how me saying that Senior wasn't a centre with great finesse is knocking him or also me snot giving praise to opposition players? Now that's another assumption you've made with zero info to back it up. For the record i thought Senior was a great player and i'd have loved to see him at Wigan. I just don't think he was an agile, free flowing creative centre in mould of Gleeson or other players like that. Doesn't mean he wasn't a hell of a player.

Gelling is a big guy who's hard to put down, has a decent turn of pace (i'd say he's as quick as senior was) and after watching him in the academy he seems more natural playing at centre than he does on the wing. If i'm going to say what sort of centre HE COULD BE then i'll pick the best version of that type of player. IMO that's senior. That however isn't me saying Gelling could be better than Senior I'm just saying he COULD be that type of player.

•Great hands
•Great work rate
•Good offload
•Good size
•Decent speed
•Decent tackle technique
•Poor concentration
•Poor positioning

His problems are things that should be able to be coached out of him over time, he's worth keeping imo

Another point to raise is about is awareness, does he actually know what he's doing? Does he know what the opposition are doing? Or is he just a tall battering ram and awareness is not in his forte? We have had so many smart centres and second rowers and he doesnt come across as a smart player. Come to think of it he does remind me of Joel Tomkins and he wasnt a bad player. Put that list to Joel and it matches!

I don't think he's had enough game time to come to all those conclusions about him.
I was pretty annoyed when, for his second try, he seemed more interested in throwing the ball into the crowd rather than going nearer the posts. Not mearly as annoyed though when Hughes went to right centre, that I can't understand. The lad struggles there and he had a poor game because of it. Gelling didn't have a poor game.
Gelling has to be tried at centre next time Thornley is hooked or Goulding is injured/ill. The right defence made Ah Van and Isa look world beaters and neither are SL quality players.
Not sure how many games Gelling has played in the first team but he needs to play far more. I'm not sure what to make of him at present.

The lad will never win with some people. If he was English and more importantly from Wigan he'd be given that licence to make errors and people would focus on the positives like they do with the local kids.

He'll always have that battle to fight but he can only do so much. His try scoring record is exceptional, his workrate and attitude is excellent but he has things to work on, like anybody. One day we'll hopefully be able to judge him in his natural position also. He's never a winger but he gives it a fair crack.

The problem is that once their minds are made up (Lauaki, Gelling, Wane) it will take Sam like performances to change their minds.

Agree 100%

Care to explain why my post was idiotic? I clearly explained that in my opinion, during his period at wigan, I don't rate him. What's your problem?

This "not local" issue is a complete red herring, he's being judged on performances, not origin. There are plenty of recent non-local imports that have proved themselves on the pitch, and equally there are plenty of local lads whose leaving is not particularly regretted. I'd be delighted if he eventually proves to be another Richards or Dallas, but I haven't seen much evidence yet that he can do so, and that's the sort of quality we, as a club, should be looking for.

The Pro Gelling crew on this forum are unbelievable at times. Fans who reply, who for any reason don't like Gelling, get shot down in flames and called idiots and alike? There is no right answer and everybody is entitled to their opinion. To say if he was English people would be behind him and earlier posters also playing a race angle to a simple rugby debate is ignorant and childish.

Karl Pryce was English. Karl Pryce's try scoring record was exceptional. I was still front of the queue saying he was not good enough for Wigan, which he wasn't. And it is my opinion, and the opinion of many others on here, that Anthony Gelling is not and never will meet the standard required to be a starter in an elite super league team.

If you don't agree with our opinions then tough.

You lot are arguing like a bunch of old women

Hes a young lad who rarely plays and, when he does, hes out of position. Ive no doubt he is doing the best he can with the chances he has been given. I think ill let Mr Wane decide if hes any good or not

Karl Pryce wasn't being played played out of position, he also would have got more leeway had he been a Wiganer but in truth to compare him to Gelling is harsh IMO. The one thing Gelling doesn't lack is heart and its his bottle and enthusiasm that should buy him some patience from supporters IMO. He clearly got things to work on but it's equally clear he has real talent. He has played 3 or 4 matches this season with gaps of a number of weeks between each appearance. He's been much improved on last year but looks rusty in certain areas which is understandable.

I stick by what I said though, if he was English he'd be given more patience. If he were a Wiganer he'd be given even more. We're talking about a young lad here with less then 15 first team appearances under his belt and all out of position. To write him off already is crazy and thankfully Shaun Wane won't do that.

Long term we'll see which side of this debate was the correct one.

If i was to be brutally honest he's probably done more things wrong than right so far when he's pulled the shirt on, but how on earth can we expect him to be up to speed when he gets a chance to play (which is rare) if he cant even get a warmup game , it's ridiculous! He does have some potential, maybe not as much as what Ian Lenagan was raving about when Kevin Iro told him to sign him, but there is something there he just doesnt look safe when he gets the ball he tries too hard i think which maybe down to the pressure he's under with limited chances, he's superb at returning the ball so id give him a crack at fullback and see how he go's, you never know he could be Sams replacement if he jumps ship.

I presume you're joking here. Let's be fair Gelling is nowhere near good enough as a winger but he's needs to be givena crack at centre before too long. There are loads of games coming up (Cas/Bradford at home) when SW can afford to try this. Maybe he will.

I feel sorry for Gelling, he's getting no rugby and no luck either and when he does play he's out on the wing (like at Huddersfield when he went off injured in his first game of the season and was then out for ages). Thornley has played more than anyone this year, so he's due a rest.

Pryce, Paleaaesina, Phelps, Riddell, Roberts, Finch, Lima, Gelling and Lauaki. Some of those players went on to prove people wrong, but which white British players from '10 onwards copped as much stick as they did when they had an off day? The only one I can think of is Ainscough, which is quite surprising given that the team has been mainly made up of white Brits in that time. Black/overseas players aren't necessarily hated by the majority of our fans, but they do have to play better to prove themselves. I don't believe for a minute that so many people would be on Gelling's back if he was from Wigan.

id be very careful with comments like that