I honestly can't see the issue. It's not the shoulder [iper se[/i it's where it goes. Surely?

I agree, but I think there have been a couple, & only a couple I can recollect, that were borderline & ended up as a sending off. So maybe to avoid that complication they are taking away the issue. In reality the high impact shoulder charges are pretty rare. By far the most common is the big front on chest impact. The suggestion that the charge down of the kicker is regularly a shoulder charge I just don't recognise.

But in that case they need to ban tackling too as some of those can end up 'borderline'. Actually so are many 'forward passes' so let's uncomplicate that rule too and do away with passing. As for scoring; look what happened to Amos Roberts when he went in for a try. I reckon those need banning too...unless we just ban the posts to end any chance of collisions with them. As for the pitch!

Players could turn an ankle on some of those divots! I think the best solution all round would be for all of us to play each game in our head and decide the result by discussion and debate. No worries about players gettin injured then. I'll send a memo to the RFL...

I agree we mustn’t get this one out of proportion, I don’t think this is a deal breaker as far as our game is concerned. You don’t see it in every match, and its loss is not a sign of a great decline to sanitized RL IMO. There are much greater problems in the game that are not being addressed, things that may bring the game to its knees, but not this. Not worth getting all hot and bothered about this one.

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Here is the alternative view on the shoulder charge

Great stuff!

Certainly is mate, the bit about the porn film dropped me to the floor

Funny but all true