Think a bans a bit harsh. As I have stated, I started the thread out of curiosity, not to start some kind of war.

Feel free to delete or lock the thread Mods if that would be best.

Dont be ridiculous. It seems to be fine if people talk about how great the Brigantes/Ultras (or whatever they are called this week) are but any criticism, no matter how small or constructive it is, and people react in a complete over the top reaction like this. It was similar on the swearing thread last week with Brigantes members belittling peoples genuine concerns because they thought it was big and clever to chant songs with swear words in it when there were easy compromises/alternatives.

I dont like the way they purposely set out to be so devisive and have a if you are not with us you are aginst us attitude. Many of peoples fears and concerns could have been sorted out at the start of the year, it really didnt take much. However as far as I can see it there is absolutely no compromise, no taking on board peoples concerns and a general screw you we will do as we please attitude to the rest of the supporters.

Like i said nothing against you mate i meant from now on ban for a week sick of seeing the same thing on here

Join the Brigantes thread sweepstake pal - makes it more interesting. How many pages this week?

Just realised I'm not helping myself by posting here

Ban people who post about Brigantes/Ultras?



It's comments like that that exacerbate the issue, especially when the OP raised a valid question in a totally non-confrontational way and even complimented the Brigantes! Just like the swearing thread when a couple of posters jumped in to claim it was a Brigantes-bashing thread when they hadn't even been mentioned. Perhaps there's a bit of victim mentality going on.

Do what you want it doesn't matter to me if you have 10 or 10,000 each to there own just sick of about 10 threads with the same stuff all over the forum just have 1 and talk about it there thats all im saying

There's 1, and this is it. Massive over-reaction and dummy-spit from you.

You can see what the topic is about from the title. Simply don't open it and read through it.

Read something you do have interest in, it's really not that hard.

Ultras/Brigantes = Chavs

Sh/te scarves.

End of.

It's great isn't it?





The only positive I can take from this is that it's a sign that everything else is going well. There's nothing else for Wigan fans to complain about.

How I hark back to the days of the simple finger point.

Doesn't matter what they are called to me. They have brought back something we have been missing for a while. Atmosphere!!!!

As soon as I saw the shot on sky of all the kids with those scarves and the one with his face covered I just knew there would be a thread about it

, Getting a bit tedious now but I guess I'd rather see people moaning about teenagers with ultra scarves than the team being crap. Don't agree with the face being covered by scarf thing but they aren't hurting anyone... yet...

and the atmosphere sounded great on the tv.

This.... Spot on...

Nail on the head.

However, I will have a moan. I'm all for generating more atmosphere, but I don't see the point of someone labelling themselves as a Brigante or Ultra or whatever. Surely we can just generate atmosphere as Wiganers. It's as if they think they are some set of super fans, and has an elitist feel to it. I just don't get it, sorry.

Them ultras scarves did look shìt though. I was abit embarrassed for them when I watched it back on tv.

As mentioned on previous threads, I don't want to be apart of any supporters group but just want to be amongst atmosphere and considering the Brigantes/Ultras are the most vocal bunch, I will sit/stand on the outskirts of their group to be amongst the good atmosphere that they mostly create. Last night was great and it's totally irrelevant what scarf they have, each to their own.

But again, I just don't understand the segregation. Why go in the far wings and why run down to the bottom of the stand which will obviously alert stewards that then leads to visable prevention tactics such as more stewarding with the chief steward filming the group. It just creates negative attention but then again, despite defensive posts by members on here, I think it's what a lot of them want which is a shame because the concept with the right morals is brilliant for Wigan supporters.

I'm pretty sure everybody loves the atmosphere and the effort, but you're right, it does have an elitist (as well as divisive) feel to it.

wondered when it would turn up.......can we give the Brigantes/Ultras their own forum to stop the rest of us getting bored every week

They have got their own forum! They are already bored with rlfans! Its the rest of you who are obsessed with keep raising topics on rlfans and then spend the rest of the 17 pages complaining that the thread was raised in the first place!

The people that are complaining about the thread are the people that are saying they are bored. If you dont like a thread its quite simple, simply dont post at all on it and instead post on the threads that do not bore you, there are plenty to choose from. Its not exactly rocket science.

Thought it looked a bit daft myself - 20 kids at the front waving scarves and bouncing while the rest - who looked like you supported a different team due to seperation between groups - sat there clapping politely.

Cracking noise though but you need to get another song , that one gets tedious after 60 mins

One question I do have is, why do the scarves say 'ultras' on them?! If you are there supporting Wigan, then get a scarf that says Wigan. I was proper cringing last night when I saw it on TV with people jumping around with scarves as if to say, "Look how cool we are!!! I'm an ultra!! Yey!"

It did make it a lot easier to play 'spot the chav.'

Why didn't the group initially come up with a name/brand that ties in with the concept of the 18th man? The 18ers (or something less crap than that)? That way there wouldn't be this fissure between fans on the one hand and ultras on the other.