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| Well me and my lad walked up to the turnstiles with a load of lads who had obviously been on the pop and were singing. They were all searched and we got through unchallenged. So if you want to get your flags and socket sets in next season you know how to do it!
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| Quote ="Boudicca"Very, very poor from the St Helens club on a number of fronts, from some (not all) of the stewards' behaviour to the well-documented parking problems and the decision to class flags as some kind of weapon of mass destruction. On the good side, every Saints fan we met on the day was fine with us, just good friendly banter and sensible rugby chit-chat.'"
The Saints fans were great as usual in my experience. They are proper fans much like ourselves who like a bit of 'friendly' banter but it never goes further.
Fully respect them unlike some sets.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"LOL.... Your biggest worry would have been if someone took a socket set and dismantled the ground..!!'"
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"The Saints fans were great as usual in my experience. They are proper fans much like ourselves who like a bit of 'friendly' banter but it never goes further.
Fully respect them unlike some sets.'"
In which case (and I don't disagree), then why did those in charge of the Stewarding feel the need to have such a bullish approach? Can't help but think a more passive line, with the option to front up when fully necessary, would have been better?
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| Quote ="dubairl"is that why the chavs from st helens was hanging around like a bad smell? its a rugby league fan group who correspond and are in regular contact with the club with the sole intention to raise atmosphere and bring a together feeling between fans they arn't some underground organised fight club from football.
when there is a heavy amount of stewards and police officers for no other reason apart from rumours this will cause trouble.'"
Hey I understand what your are saying mate.
I just think that the ultras name leaves you open, and could potentially bite you on the bum.
I do think the fan group thing is good, certainly for improving and generating an atmosphere. I just think 'ulltra' might lead people to think 'ey up, could be trouble here today'.
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| I got my 6 year old son a bottle of fizzy pop inside the ground but he was not allowed to have the screw lid. I asked why and was quoted heath and safety. I asked what a 6 year old boy would do with a lid? Not a reply back. So he can have a plastic bottle full of pop, but put a lid on it and you have heath and safety problem??
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| Quote ="RLIMR"Hey I understand what your are saying mate.
I just think that the ultras name leaves you open, and could potentially bite you on the bum.
I do think the fan group thing I'd good, certainly for improving and generating an atmosphere. I just think 'ulltra' might lead people to think 'ey up, could be trouble here today'.'"
yeah i do understand it but if saints was really that worried i am sure they could of had a meeting with the group organisers.
there is idiots and you never know when more of them idiots may meet up but treating fans like animals is very provocative
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| Quote ="Lippy"I got my 6 year old son a bottle of fizzy pop inside the ground but he was not allowed to have the screw lid. I asked why and was quoted heath and safety. I asked what a 6 year old boy would do with a lid? Not a reply back. So he can have a plastic bottle full of pop, but put a lid on it and you have heath and safety problem??'"
they do that at music festivals i guess its to do with flicking them at somebody or even on the pitch.
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| Why can't everybody just accept the simple explanation that the reason the stewards and police were in large attendance is that the ground and town are in Merseyside?
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| Quote ="goobervision"Why can't everybody just accept the simple explanation that the reason the stewards and police were in large attendance is that the ground and town are in Merseyside?'"
Or that they have an in-built inferiority complex.
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| Quote ="dubairl"they do that at music festivals i guess its to do with flicking them at somebody or even on the pitch.'"
So you can throw a bottle, but not the lid?? Sorry I dont understand this one bit.
Late into the game someone from the back did throw a nearly full bottle of beer down to front, hitting the advertisement boards.
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| Quote ="Lippy"So you can throw a bottle, but not the lid?? Sorry I dont understand this one bit.
Late into the game someone from the back did throw a nearly full bottle of beer down to front, hitting the advertisement boards.'"
To be fair this is standard at big events if you think about you throw a bottle with no lid and everyone gets wet but bottle can't do much
Throw a full bottle with a lid on and that's a serious thing to hit u in your head like
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| Quote ="pie eater and proud of it"Is that from the same source that ' heard ' Wigan fans had smashed the toilet block up ?
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It's from the @saints1890 unsubstantiated rumour/witch hunt generator on twitter.
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| Quote ="Lippy"I got my 6 year old son a bottle of fizzy pop inside the ground but he was not allowed to have the screw lid. I asked why and was quoted heath and safety. I asked what a 6 year old boy would do with a lid? Not a reply back. So he can have a plastic bottle full of pop, but put a lid on it and you have heath and safety problem??'"
Next time just take a spare bottle lid in your pocket and use it when they take the other one off you
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Quote ="Lippy"I got my 6 year old son a bottle of fizzy pop inside the ground but he was not allowed to have the screw lid. I asked why and was quoted heath and safety. I asked what a 6 year old boy would do with a lid? Not a reply back. So he can have a plastic bottle full of pop, but put a lid on it and you have heath and safety problem??'"
Next time just take a spare bottle lid in your pocket and use it when they take the other one off you
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Exactly what I've done in the past as I've come used to that rule for years.
Baffles me that people still are suprised by it and don't understand why.
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| He was thrown out for throwing a toilet roll. I followed when the stewards escorted him, to make sure he was ok as he's only a young lad. He was ejected from the ground whilst "we check the cameras" and was the told he wasn't coming back in as "something was seen to be ejected from his hand". Before this was confirmed I asked a police officer on the scene what was occuring, he told me that Wigan fans had been throwing coins and bottles over the back of the stand onto our own fans. Thinking about this now, this is a very serious (and seemingly unfounded) story for anyone to allege, let alone a member of the police force. As someone who was stood towards the back of the stand, and spent time in the concourse (I had to queue the best part of half an hour for a bottle of water!!!) I saw no evidence of any incident of this type. All I saw come over the back of the stand was balloons caught by the wind that was blowing through the half a stadium that they've built. For him to allege the coin and bottle throwing and then it be confirmed the lad was thrown out for throwing a toilet roll seemed almost laughable. Being searched going into the ground was somewhat bizarre, as was the ban on flags and the very evident police and stewarding presence. But the day passed without incident as far as I could see, which of course should be the case at each and every game, and hopefully that will be taken into account upon our trip to Langtree Park next season.
As for the bottle tops, I fully understand that rule. Someone throws a bottle of water without a lid and it's almost empty when it lands. Someone throws a bottle with a lid and it remains full and heavy, especially if it's thrown from some height, such as from a stand onto the pitch.
Yes we call ourselves ultras, and to some this may conjour ideas of bad behaviour, which although I don't agree with I CAN understand. But I'd like to think our close contact with the Wigan club, constant good behaviour and good reports from stewards at away games, efforts in improving the atmosphere at games (which I can underdstand not everyone will agree with, not everyone likes to sing and jump around!) and the time spent preparing displays for home games as a group of mates would count for more than peoples ill-informed assumptions!
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| The young lad was chucked out. Total injustice. I saw Wigan fans smoking in the end, ing in a bottle, I could go on.... none of them were chucked out. But instead a young fan with a bar scarf on was chucked out, I wonder why?
Who took all the bog roll and streamers anyway? It was fantastic. We should do the same at Leeds and Wire I reckon, but on a bigger scale.
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| Quote ="Odem"The young lad was chucked out. Total injustice. I saw Wigan fans smoking in the end, ing in a bottle, I could go on.... none of them were chucked out. But instead a young fan with a bar scarf on was chucked out, [uI wonder why?[/u'"
Because he was seen throwing a bog roll. If I'd thrown one and been chucked out I wouldn't have had any complaints, it would be my own fault not the stewards. I don't know why it's relevant that he was young and wearing a bar scarf?
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| Regarding the stewarding at the stadium. On the opening match of the stadium against Widnes the stewards were very vigilant. However on coming out we spoke to a female steward who was trying to hurry us out of the gates. Apparently the outside stewards come from away - this particular one came from Rotherham. She said they wanted to get everyone out as they had quite a journey home. I think we must have our own stewards inside with a few from away and then the outside ones are ones we bring in from an outside firm. It will take them awhile to get used to Rugby fans being different to soccer fans. We have had a few 'not nice' stewards outside when we have been to Wigan in the past. They think we are all like soccer fans. I'm sure it will settle down in the future.
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| I know a few of the stewards at Langtree Park and I have to say they aren't the brightest bunch.
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| Pity they didn't see the moron who when hocky scored left the ground and threw his pint glasses into the wigan end hitting a little girl.A complaint was made to the police and hopefully they will get him on cctv.
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| Never ever been searched like that before going into a rugby ground. I've had stewards asking to have a quick look in bags etc which is fair enough but I was patted down as if I was a potential terrorist! The stewards outside the ground really did seem OTT, I understand there being a need for a police presence aswell but the amount of police officers around seemed like overkill.
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| Quote ="21-12"He was ejected, they were looking for excuses all game to eject Wigan fans, there was one steward in particular that decided to eyeball people for all of the second half and make gestures as if to say "come on then" his steward number was taken and a complaint will be made. They were extremely heavy handed before the game on the turnstile as were merseyside police. The stewards were a disgrace to the saints club'"
I think I know the one you're talking about. He definitely looked like he was trying to goad some of our fans, couldn't quite believe what I was seeing. I managed to avoid being searched, but the last time I saw people being patted down like that was when the Queen came to officially open the new part of the MRI where I work. Maybe she was there and we just didn't realise
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| Quote ="alectrician"Pity they didn't see the moron who when hocky scored left the ground and threw his pint glasses into the wigan end hitting a little girl.A complaint was made to the police and hopefully they will get him on cctv.'"
He was arrested and charged with drunk and disorderly.
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| There was good evidence that a section of the Ultras were intending to bring spray paint to put the S2 logo around the ground. Not sure where that came from but thats why the searches were done. A number of cans were found but the fans were allowed in. Nothing heavy handed about that. Throwing any object towards the pitch is against ground regs and he was ejected. Nothing heavy handed there either. They hoped ejecting the first to do it would deter the rest. That seemed to fail!
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