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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"Is he articulate? Too many people doing stuff they're totally unqualified to do just because they're good at something else unrelated.
The RFL is run by people like this, a bunch of amateur ex-players making management decisions they're totlly unqualified to make.
That's why those Stobart trucks look like they are sponsoring Sky sport RL, rather than SL. RFL amateurs doing professionel jobs.
This Tomkins thing is exactly the same. All we'll end up with is a show that's presented by an amateur. He should stick to what he is undoubtedly good at.'"
The NRL TV coverage is packed with former players who, after a bit of coaching, have all added plenty of colour and expertise to the Aussie TV experience. We also have ex-players and coaches over here who are fine in front of a TV camera. It's vastly presumptuous to claim that Tomkins will basically fail at this, without even seeing what he can do.
Where is it written that RL player = inarticulate thickie?
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"=#FF0000Is he articulate? Too many people doing stuff they're totally unqualified to do just because they're good at something else unrelated.
The RFL is run by people like this, a bunch of amateur ex-players making management decisions they're =#FF0000totlly unqualified to make.
That's why those Stobart trucks look like they are sponsoring Sky sport RL, rather than SL. RFL amateurs doing =#FF0000professionel jobs.
This Tomkins thing is exactly the same. All we'll end up with is a show that's presented by an amateur. He should stick to what he is undoubtedly good at.'"
Yes,
Listen to Radio Manchester tonight from 7 p.m. and make your own mind up.
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"Is he articulate? Too many people doing stuff they're totally unqualified to do just because they're good at something else unrelated.
The RFL is run by people like this, a bunch of amateur ex-players making management decisions they're totlly unqualified to make.
That's why those Stobart trucks look like they are sponsoring Sky sport RL, rather than SL. RFL amateurs doing professionel jobs.
This Tomkins thing is exactly the same. All we'll end up with is a show that's presented by an amateur. He should stick to what he is undoubtedly good at.'" I totally disagree with you Cameron Smith does a similar thing for Fox Sports covering NRL games and it's great to have an added opinions from a current Rugby League player at the top of his game. People who know the sport should be running it, a lot of people have rubbished The FA for employing chief executives who have had no past or history in football.
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| he was fine on question of sport
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| Quote ="Donkey OTay"Is he articulate? Too many people doing stuff they're totally unqualified to do just because they're good at something else unrelated.
The RFL is run by people like this, a bunch of amateur ex-players making management decisions they're totlly unqualified to make.
That's why those Stobart trucks look like they are sponsoring Sky sport RL, rather than SL. RFL amateurs doing professionel jobs.
This Tomkins thing is exactly the same. All we'll end up with is a show that's presented by an amateur. He should stick to what he is undoubtedly good at.'"
Go and watch some interviews with Sam Tomkins and then come back and comment again. Thanks.
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| Opposition fans are getting their knickers in a twist on the VT calling him the usual(scrote, ratboy etc) and asking why he's been chosen to do this. The answer is simple....he's not only the best rugby player in the country he's also articulate, intelligent and will give a good insight in to the game.
The RFL and Wigan are trying to get his face known outside of regular rugby league circles in the hope that not only can we keep him in the sport but that we can use him then as a vehicle to try and grow the game and keep current players like him and future generations in the sport.
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| Mainly mixed views on Leeds and Wire, no surprise.... But nothing on Stains board that i can see. Good on them....
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| I have to say, it would be amusing watching a Leeds fan boo at his own televison.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I have to say, it would be amusing watching a Leeds fan boo at his own televison.'"
How would you know unless you was in his house?
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| Quote ="MattyB"How would you know unless you was in his house?
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You could probably hear it from St Helens! Not as good as watching I suppose, but still amusing.
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| Don't particulary have a issue with Sam doing the sky job. I can see people's point of view regarding why they don't like it as it appears he is being funded by outside organisations, and I imagine some Wigan fans would be a bit peeved if say a Wire, Saints or Leeds player had the offer. I personally think its good thing keeping talent in the English game provided the same offers are available to other teams in similar situations.
I personally like the idea of current players being involved and getting their opinions. Hopefully it won't just stop with Sam and other current stars get some air time as said it would be quite interesting getting their opinions. The newly ex
Players for me have done well with the sky team and would only improve the matches.
As for the booing. Never booed him, never will. Or any other player for that matter
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| Listening to Sam on Radio Manchester tonight it appears that he will have a 15 minute spot on Superleagues Supermen where he will interview a player about a famous try.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Don't particulary have a issue with Sam doing the sky job. I can see people's point of view regarding why they don't like it as it appears he is being funded by outside organisations, and I imagine some Wigan fans would be a bit peeved if say a Wire, Saints or Leeds player had the offer. I personally think its good thing keeping talent in the English game provided the same offers are available to other teams in similar situations.
I personally like the idea of current players being involved and getting their opinions. Hopefully it won't just stop with Sam and other current stars get some air time as said it would be quite interesting getting their opinions. The newly ex
Players for me have done well with the sky team and would only improve the matches.
As for the booing. Never booed him, never will. Or any other player for that matter'"
If you know where it says he is being paid by someone else please show us.... And how do you know we would have a gripe if someone else was doing it?... Seems to me like you have made up all your own "facts" here...
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"If you know where it says he is being paid by someone else please show us.... And how do you know we would have a gripe if someone else was doing it?... Seems to me like you have made up all your own "facts" here...'"
It doesn't and I haven't said he is getting paid by sky. I used the word appears, not stating it was fact. Also not stating it is fact that Wigan would have a problem if the boot was on the other foot, however you are deluded if you think not one Wigan fan would have a issue. As I said it isn't a issue for me but I can see some people's point of view as to why they don't like it.
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"If you know where it says he is being paid by someone else please show us.... And how do you know we would have a gripe if someone else was doing it?... Seems to me like you have made up all your own "facts" here...'"
I think he was supporting the fact that Sam is doing this. Don't see the point in trying to argue with him for the sake of it?
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I think he was supporting the fact that Sam is doing this. Don't see the point in trying to argue with him for the sake of it?'"
I was. Quite happy he is doing it.
I was trying to say probably badly that I can also see why some people might not like it (weather right or wrong)
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Listening to Sam on Radio Manchester tonight it appears that he will have a 15 minute spot on Superleagues Supermen where he will interview a player about a famous try.'"
Did he mention if the show time is being expanded? The usual 30mins supermen then 15mins sam and the super try or sticking with the current 30minute format?
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Did he mention if the show time is being expanded? The usual 30mins supermen then 15mins sam and the super try or sticking with the current 30minute format?'"
Sure I read somewhere that its an hour long show this year.
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| Quote ="FIOS"Sure I read somewhere that its an hour long show this year.'"
The Darren Lockyer hour long one was superb.
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| Quote ="Ferdy"Don't particulary have a issue with Sam doing the sky job. I can see people's point of view regarding why they don't like it as it appears he is being funded by outside organisations, and I imagine some Wigan fans would be a bit peeved if say a Wire, Saints or Leeds player had the offer. I personally think its good thing keeping talent in the English game provided the same offers are available to other teams in similar situations.
I personally like the idea of current players being involved and getting their opinions. Hopefully it won't just stop with Sam and other current stars get some air time as said it would be quite interesting getting their opinions. The newly ex
Players for me have done well with the sky team and would only improve the matches.
As for the booing. Never booed him, never will. Or any other player for that matter'"
John Wilkin does a lot on BBC coverage and writes an article IIRC? It's practically the same only Sam is working on Sky.
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| The very fact that people are debating whether or not an RL player should be allowed to do another job as well shows just how much we've been brainwashed by this 'Salary Cap is God' crap.
Not one of the rest of us us would hesitate to up our earnings if we were offered another job on the side, if we could fit it in easily. In no other walk of life would it be an issue.
And we wonder why players are leaving the game.
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| Quote ="Katrina"John Wilkin does a lot on BBC coverage and writes an article IIRC? It's practically the same only Sam is working on Sky.'"
I hope Sam isnt as annoying as that gob$hite!
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| No problems with Tomkins featuring on Sky's coverage, although it maybe should extend to other articulate players within the game to avoid any perception of Tomkins / Wigan favouritism. I'd hate Saints to lose Lomax, for example, to the Union ££ without seeing similar efforts from the RFL / Sky to make staying in RL as attractive as possible, and we should be taking pre-emptive strikes rather than scrabbling round once players have started to have their heads turned.
From a viewing point of view, using Tomkins (and others) would be good to get more 'from the coal face' input into RL coverage.
The only concern is that, sooner or later, the RFL / Wigan / Sky will run out of ways to appease Tomkins' demands for more and this will all have been a little futile.
Hope not.
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| Quote ="BackrowSaint"I have to say, it would be amusing watching a Leeds fan boo at his own televison.'"
You'll also hear us laughing as we watch the review of 2011 and beating Stains at another GF.
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