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| Quote ="Passionate Saint"Although I respect your views, most Wigan fans where quite happy to see the back of Eastmond. Me as a Saints fan first and England fan 2nd will still be devastated if Sam leaves. The boy is a freak at times, an absolute gem of a player.'"
You sure about that?
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| Quote ="Passionate Saint"Although I respect your views, =#FF0000most Wigan fans where quite happy to see the back of Eastmond. Me as a Saints fan first and England fan 2nd will still be devastated if Sam leaves. The boy is a freak at times, an absolute gem of a player.'"
Proof please. You can use the search facility to check through all the posts.
Feel free to comeback when you've done that
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| Boycotting the 4 nations will do more harm than good we need to get behind our clubs and our national team sing our hearts out and show our support
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| Quote ="Passionate Saint"Although I respect your views, most Wigan fans where quite happy to see the back of Eastmond. Me as a Saints fan first and England fan 2nd will still be devastated if Sam leaves. The boy is a freak at times, an absolute gem of a player.'"
Rubbish. I was NOT happy at Eastmond leaving and I don't think many Wigan fans were either. We don't have enough quality players in RL to be happy about rival clubs losing young players with the potential of Eastmond to RU.
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| 5 year contracts should be honoured. Otherwise what is the point of having a contract at all? Wigan have a contract with both players and should insist it is honoured. If they don't then IL is helping RU steal our players.
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| I'm not sure it would ever be wise to insist a player fulfills the terms of his contract if his heart was elsewhere. It is probably better to seek a financial settlement and to allow to him go. In which case, the purpose of a contract would seem to be ensure that should a player wish to move on, the club receives some sort of recompense.
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| Quote ="Passionate Saint"Although I respect your views, most Wigan fans where quite happy to see the back of Eastmond. Me as a Saints fan first and England fan 2nd will still be devastated if Sam leaves. The boy is a freak at times, an absolute gem of a player.'"
That's totally inaccurate MOST Wigan fans were extremely disappointed with a world class player leaving Super League, as a Wigan fan I love to watch quality players show their talents for any team other wise what enjoyment would I get out of Super Leauge?
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| Rugby League Internationals have been boycotted for years.
(I have my Wembley ticket ordered BTW).
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| Bloody hell Mathers!
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| Quote ="Nick NJ"Fact is most clubs can't spend the cap.'"
Thank you - You have just summed up the ENTIRE problem with RL's Salary Cap in one sentence.
Just because the likes of Cas, Wakey, etc. can't afford to spend the same as Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC can, WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE BE PENALISED ???????
If a team can SAFELY afford to spend more, but still break even (averaged over a rolling 3-year period), then why should the small-minded, penny-piinching teams, who can't be ársed to improve their own finances be given the right to hold the rest of us back.
As I posted in another thread, Cas/Wakey and the like never have and most likely never will reach the Grand Final, so if the SC were to be reset to either 50% of turnover or a rolling 3-year break-even, you would STILL wind up with roughly the same 8 teams in the pay-offs based on finances.
Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC, Saints, Huddersfield, Catalans, Hull KR & Bradford would still be the 9 most likely candidates to be fighting for the 8 places.
Strangely, the financial positions of MOST clubs is roughly the same now as their (usual/expected) finishing positions in the league, with the exception of Saints who seem to be able to compete despite being seemingly permanently broke.
In conclusion - Scrap the cap in its current form (it doesn't protect clubs anyway - Crusaders, Broncos?) and base it on some form of turnover/profit.
If the little teams don't like this - TOUGH SH|TE - Work on improving your finances like the rest of us already have.
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"Thank you - You have just summed up the ENTIRE problem with RL's Salary Cap in one sentence.
Just because the likes of Cas, Wakey, etc. can't afford to spend the same as Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC can, WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE BE PENALISED ???????
If a team can SAFELY afford to spend more, but still break even (averaged over a rolling 3-year period), then why should the small-minded, penny-piinching teams, who can't be ársed to improve their own finances be given the right to hold the rest of us back.
As I posted in another thread, Cas/Wakey and the like never have and most likely never will reach the Grand Final, so if the SC were to be reset to either 50% of turnover or a rolling 3-year break-even, you would STILL wind up with roughly the same 8 teams in the pay-offs based on finances.
Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC, Saints, Huddersfield, Catalans, Hull KR & Bradford would still be the 9 most likely candidates to be fighting for the 8 places.
Strangely, the financial positions of MOST clubs is roughly the same now as their (usual/expected) finishing positions in the league, with the exception of Saints who seem to be able to compete despite being seemingly permanently broke.
In conclusion - Scrap the cap in its current form (it doesn't protect clubs anyway - Crusaders, Broncos?) and base it on some form of turnover/profit.
If the little teams don't like this - TOUGH SH|TE - Work on improving your finances like the rest of us already have.'"
Like I said in another thread, the tail wags the dog in Rugby League.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Like I said in another thread, the tail wags the dog in Rugby League.'"
Just go and read Wood's statement on the RFL site. If an executive at a private company spouted that content-free sh**e and tried to call it 'vision', he'd be fired on the spot. ( Unless he worked for a bank ).
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| The sc should be changed to allow clubs to spend 50% of their income and home grown players should only have half or even none of their wage counted. This would force the likes of Cas and Wakefield to market their clubs better and also it would encourage more clubs to bring young players through their ranks instead of relying on the likes of Wigan Leeds and Saints to supply them.
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| Quote ="Coventry Warrior!"Good examples! I bet it doesn't have half the impact it does on players going from League to Union though.'"
you can't be serious?
League almost ruined welsh RU. My team were probably the worst.
League was merciless and now it appear to be payback.
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| Quote ="Pie Eyed"Thank you - You have just summed up the ENTIRE problem with RL's Salary Cap in one sentence.
Just because the likes of Cas, Wakey, etc. can't afford to spend the same as Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC can, WHY THE HELL SHOULD WE BE PENALISED ???????
If a team can SAFELY afford to spend more, but still break even (averaged over a rolling 3-year period), then why should the small-minded, penny-piinching teams, who can't be ársed to improve their own finances be given the right to hold the rest of us back.
As I posted in another thread, Cas/Wakey and the like never have and most likely never will reach the Grand Final, so if the SC were to be reset to either 50% of turnover or a rolling 3-year break-even, you would STILL wind up with roughly the same 8 teams in the pay-offs based on finances.
Wigan, Wire, Leeds, Hull FC, Saints, Huddersfield, Catalans, Hull KR & Bradford would still be the 9 most likely candidates to be fighting for the 8 places.
Strangely, the financial positions of MOST clubs is roughly the same now as their (usual/expected) finishing positions in the league, with the exception of Saints who seem to be able to compete despite being seemingly permanently broke.
In conclusion - Scrap the cap in its current form (it doesn't protect clubs anyway - Crusaders, Broncos?) and base it on some form of turnover/profit.
If the little teams don't like this - TOUGH SH|TE - Work on improving your finances like the rest of us already have.'"
I've got a better idea: Why not insist that Wakefield have a cap of £100k per year imposed until Wath Brow's gate receipts have caught up with them? Makes perfect sense. Wakefield fans think 'equalizing competition' raises standards - so with my idea we'll get improved standards right down through the leagues! It's brilliant - loads of clubs' standards will rise!
What's that I hear from Wakefield fans? "It's not fair, then here at Wakefield we wouldn't be able to field the best team we could afford, and that would ruin attempts to expand our fan base, so we'd all be dragged backward in a vicious circle"
Funny you should say that, I've heard the same thing mentioned elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"If the Brothers go. The RFL are resigned to the fact were never gonna catch up so why bother watching.
RFL are a joke and need to help our game.'"
What a ridiculous idea. More than ever we need to support the International game. Just think half empty stadia and the RU propaganda machine in full flow "Come and have a look at the six nations"
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| I find it unbelievable and small minded that anyone could even suggest boycotting the Four Nations. One on hand we have people shouting that the RFL need to help clubs retain their best players, and on the other hand we have the same people shouting that supporters should boycott the Four Nations. The only chance the RFL has of making money to support clubs retain the best players is for us all to support the various competitions it runs. Seems like common sense to me.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"I find it unbelievable and small minded that anyone could even suggest boycotting the Four Nations. One on hand we have people shouting that the RFL need to help clubs retain their best players, and on the other hand we have the same people shouting that supporters should boycott the Four Nations. The only chance the RFL has of making money to support clubs retain the best players is for us all to support the various competitions it runs. Seems like common sense to me.'"
Yet you watch, there will be a 20 page thread on the Virtual Terrace forum (as the game is still being played) on how awful Wembley looks with only 45k on.
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| Maybe there will, but 45k would be a good start.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"Maybe there will, but 45k would be a good start.'"
Indeed it would.
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| Quote ="MattyB"Yet you watch, there will be a 20 page thread on the Virtual Terrace forum (as the game is still being played) on how awful Wembley looks with only 45k on.'"
And what's the betting that the thread will start during the first game by the usual lot sat on their backsides at home?
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"And what's the betting that the thread will start during the first game by the usual lot sat on their backsides at home?'"
Yep. That was my point.
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| Looking forward to Wembley, just to see the Aussies & Kiwis in person.
No real interest in supporting England with the squad McBanana has picked and the way the game is run, but I'll want Sam to do well, just to silence the inevitable boos.
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| boycott the 4nations ?,think about it for a minute.the reasons our top stars are going is the fact the ru internationals get 80,000 plus crowds,there on tv in countrys around the world(not just nw england aus and nz) and they are classed as world class athletes by not just rugby fans but by anybody who reads the press.boycotting the 4nation would just confirm to any rl player that they would be better off in ru.playing in packed grounds all around the world,being made to feel like a superstar and earning loads of cash to set them up for life or playing in a 1/4 full stadium because the fans are boycotting a game that most of the country doesn't even know exists,sometimes rl fans are their own worst enemy,support the game,locally,internationally it doesn't matter the ru fans do,thats why their game is thriving
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| Quote ="Connor The Warrior"If the Brothers go. The RFL are resigned to the fact were never gonna catch up so why bother watching.
RFL are a joke and need to help our game.'"
Don't be ridiculous.
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