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| "Imagine how bad he would have been if saints had lost!"
You mean like what happened at the Challenge cup semi, did'nt you lose then?
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| Quote ="zntyres""Imagine how bad he would have been if saints had lost!"
You mean like what happened at the Challenge cup semi, did'nt you lose then?'"
Didn't who lose then??
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"We beat you. We don't care whether we play you or not.'"
Bet you do.
Leeds fans used to say to us lot 'we only beat you when it matters' and we couldn't really deny it in the Noble era and if we get to play you again next week (which is far from certain) I get the feeling we'll be able to trot that line out.
Wigan can't play much worse then Sunday gone and even then with the odd decision the game could have gone our way.
I'm more worried about the Catalans game then I am a rematch with Saints tbh.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Bet you do.
Leeds fans used to say to us lot 'we only beat you when it matters' and we couldn't really deny it in the Noble era and if we get to play you again next week (which is far from certain) I get the feeling we'll be able to trot that line out.
Wigan can't play much worse then Sunday gone and even then with the odd decision the game could have gone our way.
I'm more worried about the Catalans game then I am a rematch with Saints tbh.'"
Totally agree! I'm pretty sure wire will not pick Wigan in club call and if we beat the Dragons, I'd feel very confident going to Widnes and knocking moaning Joyce and her team out.
Roll on 7pm on Sunday!
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| Quote ="Bill Sonny"no mention of the sia soliola high shot on sam tomkins then royce?'"
Yes.
[i"...as Simmons points out, many more high shots went unpunished, while a borderline hit on Sam Tomkins was immediately penalised"[/i
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| What a big soft babby Royce Simmons is. Typical Aussie, who's been made even worse by St Helens' institutional excuses policy.
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| "The Undertaker" does he ever smile?
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| Quote ="Conroy"So only Wigan players threw high shots?
I see.'"
Erm, remind me again how Morley got his eye injury, I seem to remember it being in the game v Saints in an 'incident' that lead to a St Helens player getting a ban, but I must be wrong as they never commit any fouls.
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| Quote ="onedego"So, speaking of double standards, 2 Super League coaches have been fined for speaking out against the referees this season, this is the second time Whiney Boy Simmons has moaned, and no doubt, the second time he'll get off with it.
Nothing like winning gracefully eh?'"
I think you will find that at least 3 superleague coaches have spoken out about wigans underhand tactics this year.A lot of what they do is certainly against the spirit of the game if not illegal.Maguire is a very good coach in that he has got wigan playing far better than they should be with the players he has,and has got them super fit,but part of me wants him gone because of the tactics they employ and the sneaky way they try and bend some of the rules.For instance The first half when foster was kicking a pen all wigans players walked towards him to deliberately put him off .This is just one of many tactics employed by him and the sooner he returns to oz the better the game will be.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I think you will find that at least 3 superleague coaches have spoken out about wigans underhand tactics this year.A lot of what they do is certainly against the spirit of the game if not illegal.Maguire is a very good coach in that he has got wigan playing far better than they should be with the players he has,and has got them super fit,but part of me wants him gone because of the tactics they employ and the sneaky way they try and bend some of the rules.For instance The first half when foster was kicking a pen all wigans players walked towards him to deliberately put him off .This is just one of many tactics employed by him and the sooner he returns to oz the better the game will be.'"
Good to see you back. I'm guessing Saints beat Wigan recently.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I think you will find that at least 3 superleague coaches have spoken out about wigans underhand tactics this year.A lot of what they do is certainly against the spirit of the game if not illegal.Maguire is a very good coach in that he has got wigan playing far better than they should be with the players he has,and has got them super fit,but part of me wants him gone because of the tactics they employ and the sneaky way they try and bend some of the rules.For instance The first half when foster was kicking a pen all wigans players walked towards him to deliberately put him off .This is just one of many tactics employed by him and the sooner he returns to oz the better the game will be.'"
Some people really do live in a different world
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| One of the coaches that did speak about Wigan's brutal tackling was Richard Agar at the press conf after Hull FC's game at the DW.
That was a thug a thon from FC with Wille Manu leading the way and Yeaman not far behind. Joel took a big head shot from Yeaman, got the pen and then managed to get himself sent off. Ganson was woeful. Sending Joel off was the only decision he got right all night!
At the press conf Agar spoke about the brutality of the Wigan tackling!
A truly jaw dropping moment after seeing his team for 80 mins. They'd lost of course.
I'll say one thing for Simmons, he seems to have taken John Monie's advice in that a coach should only complain about the referee when he's won.
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I think you will find that at least 3 superleague coaches have spoken out about wigans underhand tactics this year.A lot of what they do is certainly against the spirit of the game if not illegal.Maguire is a very good coach in that he has got wigan playing far better than they should be with the players he has,and has got them super fit,but part of me wants him gone because of the tactics they employ and the sneaky way they try and bend some of the rules.For instance The first half when foster was kicking a pen all wigans players walked towards him to deliberately put him off .This is just one of many tactics employed by him and the sooner he returns to oz the better the game will be.'" YOU shouldn't be allowed to comment on any foul play with THAT as your username.
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| Also does he ever have a change of clothes he even wore the same at Old Trafford for the Dream Team promotion, has Saints not provided him with a suit.
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| Quote ="Donna"YOU shouldn't be allowed to comment on any foul play with THAT as your username.'"
Too right Donna ,
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"What a big soft babby Royce Simmons is. Typical Aussie, who's been made even worse by St Helens' institutional excuses policy.'"
ive never heard him shout at the ref to send a player off like your babby
Saints won fair and squar get over it your not invincible
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| Quote ="saintnickle34"I think you will find that at least 3 superleague coaches have spoken out about wigans underhand tactics this year.A lot of what they do is certainly against the spirit of the game if not illegal.Maguire is a very good coach in that he has got wigan playing far better than they should be with the players he has,and has got them super fit,but part of me wants him gone because of the tactics they employ and the sneaky way they try and bend some of the rules.For instance The first half when foster was kicking a pen all wigans players walked towards him to deliberately put him off .This is just one of many tactics employed by him and the sooner he returns to oz the better the game will be.'"
Jesus christ walking towards him, what next? Somebody ruffles his hair?
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"Jesus christ walking towards him, what next? Somebody ruffles his hair?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"as well as two tackles in the air, both of which went unpunished.'"
Not sure about 2, but there was definitely one where the Saints players whined about their man being "taken out in the air", to which the ref rightly pointed out that the ball had bounced BEFORE the man jumped up while it was on the rebound, which means that the hit is LEGAL.
I quote from the RFL rule-book:
Quote Mid-air tackle 1. (b) It is illegal to tackle an opposing player attempting to field a kick whilst the player is in mid-air. The catcher must have returned to the ground before being tackled. (See Section 15.).'"
Therefore, if you jump to field the kick and are taken out, it is a penalty.
However, if you let the ball bounce, you are no longer "fielding a kick" and a mid-air shot is absolutely fine.
Stop whining and learn the rules.
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| Quote ="twosevenzero"Erm, remind me again how Morley got his eye injury, I seem to remember it being in the game v Saints in an 'incident' that lead to a St Helens player getting a ban, but I must be wrong as they never commit any fouls.'"
Ok. I will remind you again. Morleys injury was accidental and in no way related to the banning of any Saints player whatsoever. It was thought by Eddie H. that the incidents were related but they were not.
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| Sadly live in St Helens and the Reporter is a joke for its reporting on Saints games. If they win, it is because they are magnificent/untouchable/blessed with the best talent available. If they lose they were unlucky/cheated by the refs/not given the rub of the green.
I think they expect that everyone in St Helens supports Saints. Well, they must do because the reporting is so cockeyed to be anything like the games themselves.
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| Quote ="Sheila"Sadly live in St Helens and the Reporter is a joke for its reporting on Saints games. If they win, it is because they are magnificent/untouchable/blessed with the best talent available. If they lose they were unlucky/cheated by the refs/not given the rub of the green.
I think they expect that everyone in St Helens supports Saints. Well, they must do because the reporting is so cockeyed to be anything like the games themselves.
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Isn't it just the same in Wigan? I've read Wigan papers and the journalists are no different.Not everyone in Wigan supports the Warriors. You must have missed reading the paper when the journalists have been putting the team down etc. Or you turn a blind eye to it.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Isn't it just the same in Wigan? I've read Wigan papers and the journalists are no different.Not everyone in Wigan supports the Warriors. You must have missed reading the paper when the journalists have been putting the team down etc. Or you turn a blind eye to it.'"
Well I get it every week and yet have to see the reporter give a less than rose tinted view on saints games..of course I expect them to be biased as you point out the same can be said for Wigan papers..but the point of the thread was to do with the comments of Simmonds they just happened to be in the reporter.
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| Quote ="Agent Mulder"Isn't it just the same in Wigan? I've read Wigan papers and the journalists are no different.Not everyone in Wigan supports the Warriors. You must have missed reading the paper when the journalists have been putting the team down etc. Or you turn a blind eye to it.'"
To be fair a local paper isnt gonna slate a local team too harshly are they? They wont get another interview ever! Its not rocket science
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery""The Undertaker" does he ever smile?'"
I think he had a lot more to smile about than anyone your side of the hill. If you wanna talk about dour, incommunicative, personality free coaches let's have a chat about your coach designate eh.
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