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| Quote ="Father Ted"Hoffman will be replaced by Hock who is also a left sided 2nd row.
Coley, replacement remains to be seen but Fielden is back next year with Prescott, Lima, Mossop, Dudson & Crosby.
Should Deacon retire I'd go with Mellor. Played SL for Quins earlier this year and was told when he played v Saints he was excellent. If d/r is to mean anything then Mellor and Crosby should be in the first team next year.
Centre is the main problem. Carmont in his last year in 2012, Joel still learning and will be next year if he stays at 3. An experienced centre needs to be signed for 2012 and most definately for 2013. Who and where from, who knows?'"
I am already feeling sorry for Wane. Coley, Hoffman (he is better than Hock IMO) and O'Carroll out. Lauaki in plus Thomas (?) and possibly other Crusader rejects? It's like when Millward could only sign the likes of Jordan James and that other forward player who's name I forget.
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am already feeling sorry for Wane. Coley, Hoffman (he is better than Hock IMO) and O'Carroll out. Lauaki in plus Thomas (?) and possibly other Crusader rejects? It's like when Millward could only sign the likes of Jordan James and that other forward player who's name I forget.'"
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| Quote ="DaveO"I am already feeling sorry for Wane.'"
Will it be his problem?
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| Quote ="Pemps"If indeed we have done. By all accounts we've signed 2 props from Crusaders so I really can't imagine we've signed Lauaki as well. 3 props? nah.'"
Lauaki was signed quite a while ago I think.
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| Quote ="Wandering Warrior"My thoughts exactly. We cant exactly criticise until we know who is replacing him
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True, but so far it does not look good.
Andy Coley, Ryan Hoffman, Ben Davies, Eamon O'carroll, Ben Cross and Paul Deacon lost.
Gil Dudson, Epalahame Lauaki, Ben Flower and Gareth Thomas gained.
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| Tbh I fear for next year. Good luck to freddy though. No doubt he will do well.
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"Lauaki was signed quite a while ago I think.'"
Sweet!
I am certainly looking forward to seeing how some fans justify signing him and I await the inevitable ridicule of DaveO when he has the audacity to even suggest for a moment that he is a poor signing.
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| Would have rather kept Cross than sign Luauki, bad bit of business there IMO.
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| Hame could actually be a really good signing if you play him as a wide second rower and get some aggression back into him, he's just become a pudding since Silverwood spoke to him everytime he made a tackle at HKR away last season.
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| Quote ="Goochie"Hame could actually be a really good signing if you play him as a wide second rower and get some aggression back into him, he's just become a pudding since Silverwood spoke to him everytime he made a tackle at HKR away last season.'"
Some coaches can change a players attitude, Melbourne had some very average forwards (off past performances at other clubs) yet they ended up minor premiers in the NRL and when you consider that they lost their best players to the Origin games that was some achievement.
I will always judge players after I have seen them play at the club. Having the best fitness/conditioner in SL can only improve any player that comes to Wigan.
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| I don't think his attitude or fitness is a problem. Quite simply, his playing ability is not good enough for us, especially as he is pretty much a replacement for Coley.
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| Gutted about him leaving really like him , thought he was decent
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| Quote ="Wigg'n"I don't think his attitude or fitness is a problem. Quite simply, his playing ability is not good enough for us, especially as he is pretty much a replacement for Coley.'"
I remember when rumors of signing Coley started. Some on here has the same issues now with Lauaki as they did back then with Coley. Especially since his form was not as good as the season before with Salford. Now Coley over the last 2-3 seasons has been one of the better props in SL. Looking at how players carreres in Hull do seem to go backwards you got to give the guy a chance. I have a feeling he will be fitter if he starts next season with us and play in a better side.
Its a pity O'Carroll has to go but in the end i dont think he is as good as Mossop or Prescott and with Fielden returning next season and that would mean him not playing as much as he wants. Good Luck to him in Hull i hope he will be different to the norm in Hull and get better rather than fail.
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| If we have signed Lauaki, I'm quietly confident he'll be a good addition for Wigan.
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| From what I understand we did offer O'Carroll a contract but he chose to move on for his careers sake.
Good luck to him.
As it stands with our recruitment for next year, we are linked with 2 players with potential and 2 poor players. Not good enough. At least in the days of Lindsay we were linked with players like Gasnier before we signed the likes of Vaealiki
Not to mention the unease about the coaching situation. When IL joined this club he said he would keep us fans up to date with everything thats happening, surely we must have the coaching situation sorted by now so why havent we heard anything? We keep quiet about the Thomas situation, the Lauaki rumour has been doing the rounds for months as has the Shaun Wane and Harris coaching team rumour. If these turn out to be true then IL is not doing what he said he would.
Saying that he hasnt got much wrong since he joined so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. However if all this goes the way it looks like its going then there will be a big angry mess to clean up come this time next year.
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| as for our new signing hes been too busy with other projects to fit in the announcement of signing for wigan:
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| just been mentioned on twitter that wigan offered Eamon a new contract but he thought Hull FC was the best option for his own personal career
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| Quote ="Cupid Stunt"From what I understand we did offer O'Carroll a contract but he chose to move on for his careers sake.'"
Fair enough then. He was probably a bit confused why he would've been behind Lauaki and a few unknown Welsh props.
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| Quote ="wiganwayne"just been mentioned on twitter that wigan offered Eamon a new contract but he thought Hull FC was the best option for his own personal career'"
Just seen it myself. Not sure what to make of it really. Wigan stuck with through his injuries, and he has not really been given much of a chance since returning from injury. I would have liked to have seen him stay 1 more season and try and establish himself before moving on.
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| Quote ="Cupid Stunt"as for our new signing hes been too busy with other projects to fit in the announcement of signing for wigan:
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| No that concerned with him leaving, im more concerned that we have to replace Hoffman & Coley. Also no one really knows of Fielden is going to come back from his injury at his age.
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| Quote ="{Hogan}"No that concerned with him leaving, im more concerned that we have to replace Hoffman & Coley. Also no one really knows of Fielden is going to come back from his injury at his age.'"
I agree.
Anyone know the latest about Fielden ?
The front row has been my one big worry for us this season.
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| I heard on Saturday from a fairly reliable scource that Luaiki has signed for Widnes.
A lucky escape perhaps!
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| I don't think it's a loss myself. Much like Farrell, however talented he is, he's too small for his position.
We already have a small pack, so losing O'Carroll doesn't bother me. He's a solid prop, if he can stay healthy, but he's never going to tear up trees at his size.
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| Quote ="P-J"I don't think it's a loss myself. Much like Farrell, however talented he is, he's too small for his position.
We already have a small pack, so losing O'Carroll doesn't bother me. He's a solid prop, if he can stay healthy, but he's never going to tear up trees at his size.'"
Farrell is a better quality player and you do get some very good back rowers of his size; Cassidy, Dwyer, Forshaw
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