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| Tomkins may well turn into a great centre on the right side. Not sure which young player IL is referring to for the left side to replace Carmont.
Great news about the kit and profit margins.
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cheers pal , up and running now !!
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cheers pal , up and running now !!
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| Quote ="packhoss"cheers pal , up and running now !!'"
No worries
Just as it finished
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Did IL actually name these two? Crikey.'"
No he didn't mention any of the six coaches by name.
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| Quote ="Riggs Warrior"Morgan, Agar, Potter, (Someone on rumours reckons) McDermott, who are the other two gonna be?
Matterson?
Robinson?
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Surely not Simmons, Kear or Smith. Harris and Powell too inexperienced? McRae past it?'"
morgan, agar, potter, matterson, veivers, brown are my guesses
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| I bet IL was having a right chuckle at some of those names.
I really hope that Agar was one of them. I would have fallen of my chair if that application landed on my desk.
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Its a gamble. Not based on Hocks "issues", more a case of form.
He must have impressed in the first few weeks back.
One thing i am sure about. IL will have made sure his end is covered financially. I would imagine a low salary initially with possible increases based of performace.
Great news though.
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Its a gamble. Not based on Hocks "issues", more a case of form.
He must have impressed in the first few weeks back.
One thing i am sure about. IL will have made sure his end is covered financially. I would imagine a low salary initially with possible increases based of performace.
Great news though.
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| IL does not want to raise the salary cap except for inflation. His argument is that clubs cannot afford it. He would only vote for it if there was an increase in tv revenue when a new deal is agreed.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"IL does not want to raise the salary cap except for inflation. His argument is that clubs cannot afford it. He would only vote for it if there was an increase in tv revenue when a new deal is agreed.'"
That's the only thing that can be done though. My main gripe is that the cap hasn't risen with inflation, which is an absolute joke and actually ensures rugby league players are effectively earning less.
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| Rugby Union players aged 18 to 23 not to count on the salary cap for year 1 and only 50% in year 2.
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| Quote ="Dave26"I'd guess the figures will include the away shirt too. I agree though, last years (home and away) were better, shows how much of a bonus being champions can be I guess.
And there was us being told Hock was off to 'Ull
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No, the away shirt sales are down. Wigan speccies don't like blue shirts.
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| Scouting system is only 40% of where it is expected to be in 5 years time.
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| Quote ="tugglesf78"Its a gamble. Not based on Hocks "issues", more a case of form.
He must have impressed in the first few weeks back.
One thing i am sure about. IL will have made sure his end is covered financially. I would imagine a low salary initially with possible increases based of performace.
Great news though.'"
Form is temporary, class is permanent.
I'd be worried if Hock was a fullback or a half, who would need to adjust to the way the team is playing. but he's coming back in with a higher level of fitness and a bigger body he will kill it.
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| Apparently Lenegan is so suspicious of how certain other teams manage the salary cap, that if we get outbid for a player we lodge the bid with the RFL so they can compare it against the contract of the successful club.
How times have changed.
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| Any mention about Hoffman ?
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| Well it seems like a very informative fans forum they've had tonight. VERY pleasing from a commercial and business prospective that we have definitely made a profit last year and are set to make a bigger profit this year. Absolutely fantastic news. Also the fact we've sold a lot more shirts too is excellent news for the club. The business end is going from strength to strength. Well done to all involved for such a fantastic turnaround. Interesting about the stadium rental costs with Latics potentially going down. Ian Lenagan admitted to being a Latics fan (according to someone on twitter) I wonder how much this would have to do with him trying to build bridges between the two sets of supporters? I wonder how substantial the difference will be? Interesting times there - the stadium debate continues.
As for the playing side of things Gareth Hock signing comes as no surprise. The length of the contract does come as a surprise - despite the strong rumours that he had signed a five-year deal. Gareth Hock is a fabulous player and all the reports about him are favourable, but that is a hell of a long contract for someone who has been out the game for two years. Although I trust our management completely. Let's hope I'm rewarded for my faith. (Incidentally, it makes that tool on the Hull FC forum look like...erm... a tool!). George Carmont and Paul Deacon comes as no sudden shock. I've been harping on about it on here for a while now. Shame to lose a player like Carmont along with Gleeson the same season and it puts tremendous strains on our players to develop quickly as top quality centres. However, I think Joel Tomkins is looking promising as a centre and I hope we can find someone to slot in for next season alongside him if the market for centres is grim. I hope Andy Coley can stay with us another season, but it isn't a disaster if he doesn't. Shame about the Melbourne link. I do hope we continue to pursue this.
And finally the coaching saga! 6 out of the 13 coaches in Super League applied - wow! The only coaches I'd look at would be Tony Smith, Trent Robinson and Nathan Brown. I highly doubt it was any of these, so Shaun Wane it is for me.
Overall it is looking very positive for the future of Wigan RL. Kudos Ian Lenagan.
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| Sorry if this has been asked already but is there any news on potential signings? Bar Hock Obviously.
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| 5 year contract, that will teach him, good player and all that but do you not think this sends out the wrong message.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"5 year contract, that will teach him, good player and all that but do you not think this sends out the wrong message.'"
A five year contract with stipulations.
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| Nice Summary from the Forum: [url=http://www.twitlonger.com/show/acmdar=#FF0000www.twitlonger.com/show/acmdar[/url
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| In answer to a couple of questions/comments above: IL said that the kit manufacturer will be decided tomorrow; he said we'd like to keep Hoff but realistically he may wish to go back to the NRL - nothing definite yet though; IL did not say he was a Latics fan (according to what I heard/remember) he just said he didn't want to crow over their misfortunes and wanted them to stay up, not least for the financial reasons outlined elsewhere.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Rugby Union players aged 18 to 23 not to count on the salary cap for year 1 and only 50% in year 2.'"
Am I reading this right? Is this a rule that is going to be put in place?
I agree with Ian Lenagan with regards to the salary cap. Let's hope we can at least see it rise with inflation. I'd like to see third party payments like - sponsorships etc be allowed too.
What's this with our scouting system? Is it not up to scratch at the moment and we're looking to improve it? It's one area we should be investing VERY heavily in.
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| Quote ="manoa thompsons knees"5 year contract, that will teach him, good player and all that but do you not think this sends out the wrong message.'"
Whats the wrong message here? He made a mistake and payed for it by being banned for 2 years, in that 2 years he has shown that he knows hes done wrong, hes had regular drug tests and proved that he has changed, he has kept himself fit out of his own pocket and shown his loyalty to the Wigan club by signing a 5 year contract, on what will be very small wages. He could have easily said 'no i want to sign a years contract show SL what I can do for a year then sign for the highest bidder after that'. You're just annoyed as an opposition fan because you know what a class player Wigan have on their hands for the next five years.
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