wont be your coach it has no windows

He'll sayhe's not but he will be.

Dear oh dear. Firstly, I didn't say that being better than Millward does indeed quality you. With twists like that, you should be a barrister.

Secondly, coach of the [size=200YEAR[/size means that he should indeed be judged on 2010, not the past.

Its called coach of the year and its based on what the coach has done with the resources they have not simply who is the most talented

Although saying that he has improved us immensely going from a 6th place to 1st and from having 30pts last year to 40 with three games left

lets think, in a nutshell....

(K)Noble > poor team to mediocrity
Maguire > mediocrity (achieved by above coach) to league leaders

which is greater achievement?

If Crusaders make the playoffs Noble will get it in my opinion.

Shauan Wane might win it. 100% record in 2010. No other coach can claim that

To be fair (and I still think Madge should be a shoe in), they weren't just a poor team, they were the worst in the league by a long, long way.

^ This.

^ Especially this.

Don't forget wane has alot to do with how wigan have played this year



His legacy? He not even been here a year yet.........ooppps.... forget i wrote that, not going down that road again

Exactly my thoughts, people make out as though noble was awful, he got us to three semis in 2 years and the last one of those against saints we should have won really and then got to the grand final etc.
Maguire has come in and goen on from where Noble left off which was a pretty stable club with some fantastic young players, he's doing the same with crusaders which really is an even harder job, i still think he's an absolutely fantastic coach.

Just prooves how low Leeds fans can get - people could have been more seriously hurt than they was yet youd probably still make jokes like that.

not being funny but look at the sides Crusaders are competing with and how their seasons have been totally dire and ravaged with injuries. Bradford, Quins and Catalans have all had their worst seasons for some time. Wakefield have gone downhill, Cas have been up and down. Nobby has done well to assemble a team that can compete at that level but I truly believe that if anyone thinks maverick players like Sammut in particular are doing what they do because of anything Nobby has taught them on the training pitch then they're crackers. There'd be something wrong if a team full of 2nd and 3rd rate Aussies didn't make the playoffs given the crap being served up by the teams around them.

I think you should also put the Crusaders in the injury ravaged bracket if you want me to list them i will.
The point was they have done very well for a team that was cobbled together in a few weeks and as usual Nobles team is coming good at the end of the season. It does not matter what team he has been in charge of they have always played better at the end of the season.
And if he stays then in 3 to 4 years time they will have a squad of at least 10 home grown welsh players in.
He might not have been able to take Wigan to the next level but we are reaping the rewards of all the good work he did in his time here. The foundations that Noble and I.L. have put in place at Wigan will see us doing well for the next 10 years.

I'm not knocking Crusaders or Nobby believe it or not, well I am but only in the context of a coach of the year thread. The point about injuries is he's been able to add to his squad, I don't mean just by buying players but he can pick players from Scorps if necessary who are playing at a higher level than U20's which most teams have to put up with. His team is peaking as so many others are trying to out do each other for crapness and besides his method is outdated and doesn't work. I'm not getting into the youth development argument, I know how a lot of young players feel about Nobby from his days at Bradford and Wigan but all I'll say is his involvement was limited at both clubs to say the least.

Obviously I want Madge to win it but I think Noble is the coach of the season by a long way!

He had half a team moving to an unknown place having finished rock bottom the year before and now they look set for getting in the play-offs. Amazing!

Madge has done awesome as well but we had already finished 3rd for 3 years in a row, we just needed the final touches to be a top team.

Well i dont know about Bradford but management which is what a head coach does really is about putting the right person in the right job this he did at Wigan. If you have the right people coaching the younger players you only need to oversee things and give advice to the coaches who are coaching the teams.
I dont think Noble missed many games the youngsters played in unless he was with the main team.

For once I agree with you!

if the clubs I mentioned were able to start from scratch I doubt they could possibly have done as badly as they have done. Reaching the playoffs this year is like winning a fight against dead people as far as I'm concerned, there's only 4 teams that don't make the playoffs and so many clubs have undeniably had bad seasons its unprecedented.

Now i know your not being serious

Ity's perfectly true. We're going to have a team in the playoffs that have lost substantially more games than they've won. The bottom 7 teams are all poor, depite the occasional surprise result.

I'm perfectly serious but I forgot you're not allowed to criticise Noble on here. Its an embarrassment to Super League that past it Aussies can compete at all. And the ex Celt players have been treading water for a year. Player development has gone backwards under Noble.

Really? Sam Tomkins was great at FB at the weekend

2009 Catalan finished 8th won 13 lost 14
In 2008 when we had a 6 team playoff 5th and 6th only managed 14 won and 13 lost
in 2007 Huddersfield finished 5th one place above us with a won 13 drawn 1 and lost 13.

I dont agree with the playoff system it should have a line drawn at half the teams so its a top 7 with top getting the first week off
Or a separate end of season knock out completion so you win the league and then have a top whatever knock out competition for the SL trophy like a mini CC.
By the way i have never agreed with the playoff format a team that is the best over the whole season should get the championship but when its what TV want thats what you have to do.