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| Yes you can pay on the day
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| Quote ="Greg Daintith"Yes you can pay on the day'"
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| No problem come stand with the leigh fans haha Hope as many of you come as possible as we are all cheering the same team
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| Quote ="p1e e8ter"How long is it since there have been more Wigan players than Saints in an international?'"
Since the last time one of our England contingent was injured?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Since the last time one of our England contingent was injured?'"
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| Quote ="Catalancs"[url=http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/2010/06/10/sean-mcguire-england-v-france-how-not-to-arrange-an-international-sporting-fixture-92534-26623689/England v France – How not to arrange an international sporting fixture[/url'"
Good article. However, even hardcore RL fans are choosing to watch the soccer on TV rather than pootle along to Leigh, which is no great distance from any of the rugby league towns on this side of the Pennines. So while the RFL have behaved in the amateurish way I for one would expect them to behave, the lack of support for the game is still down to the RL fans themselves.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Good article. However, even hardcore RL fans are choosing to watch the soccer on TV rather than pootle along to Leigh, which is no great distance from any of the rugby league towns on this side of the Pennines. So while the RFL have behaved in the amateurish way I for one would expect them to behave, the lack of support for the game is still down to the RL fans themselves.'"
Too true and to be honest it's something I can't get my head around. The number of people moaning about the game, the RFL and who go on about the state of rugby league will choose to go to the pub and watch a bunch of overpaid prima donnas battling it out for a ridiculous winning bonus before going back to their mind boggling salaries, 5-bedroom detached houses and Aston Martins.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Good article. However, even hardcore RL fans are choosing to watch the soccer on TV rather than pootle along to Leigh, which is no great distance from any of the rugby league towns on this side of the Pennines. So while the RFL have behaved in the amateurish way I for one would expect them to behave, the lack of support for the game is still down to the RL fans themselves.'"
That's a fair point, but still, why put the game up against such competition, when there's really no need for it? The Wigan & Saints boards, along with SKY, were quick enough to change our fixture because it was coming up against some footy game or other.
It's not as if the SL programme has been put on hold for the international, so why couldn't it have been held, say, a week or two earlier?
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| Did anyone hear the RFL media manager on GMR last night? He got some stick but his points were quite valid.
The game was arranged well before the world cup was sorted. The RFL get stick for throwing the games in at short notice so they planned this one in advance! (Personally thing that hosting it during the world cup dates was silly tho!!
They tried to move the kick off to the afternoon but sky schedules wouldnt allow(Presume its the Yawnion on then!!)He then said that if we cant get 10,000 people from Wigan, leigh, Warrington, St Helens, Salford, Widnes etc wanting to watch the national team knowing they have a good 45mins to get home to watch the football then somethings wrong! (In a way I think hes right but thats relying on the die hards to turn up. I think We should be making it easy for everyone to get to by removing excuses/barriers!)
He also pointed out that all the clubs playing friday had the choice to move their game at the start of the season knowing the fixtures would mean players being missing!
On a side, wish I could have got odds on no Bradford player being in the 17!! Hes not as daft as we all think that McNamara!!
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| I have to simply admit that this game does not in any way excite me.
It’s the main reason I won’t be attending but other factors such as the Wigan playing the following day and it being showed live on TV have all contributed to my apathy.
I just can’t get excited to see England pummel a very poor French side.
Now if it would have been England vs a SL select team at a half decent stadium i'd be all over it.
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| Quote ="Andy Greg"1 Gareth Widdop (Melbourne Storm, King Cross) =#FF0000YES
2 Tom Briscoe (Hull FC, Featherstone Lions) =#FF0000NO
3 Chris Bridge (Warrington Wolves, Waterhead) =#FF0000NO
4 Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton) =#FF0000YES
5 Ryan Hall (Leeds Rhinos, Outlon Raiders) =#FF0000 YES
6 Kevin Brown (Huddersfield Giants, Thatto Heath) =#FF0000NO
7 Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Pats) =#FF0000YES
8 James Graham (St Helens, Blackbrook) =#FF0000YES
9 Kevin Sinfield (Leeds Rhinos, Waterhead) =#FF0000NO
10 Jamie Peacock (capt) (Leeds Rhinos, Stanningley) =#FF0000YES
11 Gareth Ellis (West Tigers, Castleford Lock Lane) =#FF0000YES
12 Sam Burgess (South Sydney, Dewsbury Moor) =#FF0000YES
13 Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Pats) =#FF0000YES
14 James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook) =#FF0000NO
15 Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles) =#FF0000YES
16 Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights) =#FF0000NO
17 Joel Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Pats) =#FF0000YES
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Nick Scruton (Bradford Bulls, Churwell)
Good to see both Joel and Sam in there'"
Still a poor England side in places though. We have an abundance of good 2nd rowers and i think ellis should be at centre instead of Bridge
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| Just listening to it on listen again and he was spot on. Shame more 'fans' don't know the exact situation and circumstances.
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| Quote ="bigtruck"Still a poor England side in places though. We have an abundance of good 2nd rowers and i think ellis should be at centre instead of Bridge'"
Ive said that!! Bridge isnt and never will be international class!!
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| Quote ="bigtruck"Still a poor England side in places though. We have an abundance of good 2nd rowers and i think ellis should be at centre instead of Bridge'"
Bridge is by far Englands most gifted centre.
He's having a stormer for Wire this season.
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| Quote ="Ian Roberts Closet"Did anyone hear the RFL media manager on GMR last night?'"
Wonder who the British players are that Sam Burgess was talking about. Moves to the NRL in the not too distant future according to him on GMR.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I have to simply admit that this game does not in any way excite me.
It’s the main reason I won’t be attending but other factors such as the Wigan playing the following day and it being showed live on TV have all contributed to my apathy.
I just can’t get excited to see England pummel a very poor French side.
Now if it would have been England vs a SL select team at a half decent stadium i'd be all over it.'"
My thoughts exactly. The football is nothing to do with my decision not to go, in fact it would make me more likely to go just to avoid the footy.
If the teams had been more equally matched (either, as you suggest, by playing a stronger side than a weakened France, or by McNamara including more "prospects" instead of the usual suspects), I'd probably have gone.
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| Quote ="Geoff"My thoughts exactly. The football is nothing to do with my decision not to go, in fact it would make me more likely to go just to avoid the footy.
If the teams had been more equally matched (either, as you suggest, by playing a stronger side than a weakened France, or by McNamara including more "prospects" instead of the usual suspects), I'd probably have gone.'"
If we drew Whitehaven or Leigh in the cup would you go?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"If we drew Whitehaven or Leigh in the cup would you go?'"
Yes.
I'm quite happy to admit to being a Wigan supporter first, and England second.
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| Quote ="Geoff"Yes.
I'm quite happy to admit to being a Wigan supporter first, and England second.'"
Even though the teams wouldn't be equally matched?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"If we drew Whitehaven or Leigh in the cup would you go?'"
It’s not the same situation.
The cup serves a purpose this game doesn’t.
There is nothing riding on this game at all and we won’t learn anything from it.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Even though the teams wouldn't be equally matched?'"
What's your problem? Geoff's a Wigan fan who would watch them play anyone but wants a good chance of a real contest when it comes to internationals. Is it that hard to comprehend?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"Even though the teams wouldn't be equally matched?'"
Yep - I won't willingly miss any Wigan game, first team or reserves (finances permitting), no matter what the opposition. I just don't feel the same about England/GB.
Not trying to defend that, just saying that's how I feel, and that's where my priorities lie.
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| And as I said to another poster who isn't going, that's your perogative and you're more than entitled to it.
Quote ="thepriestman85"It’s not the same situation.
The cup serves a purpose this game doesn’t.
There is nothing riding on this game at all and we won’t learn anything from it.'"
He'd have probably gone if it had been more equally contested. Whether you think the game serves a purpose or not isn't the question.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"What's your problem? Geoff's a Wigan fan who would watch them play anyone but wants a good chance of a real contest when it comes to internationals. Is it that hard to comprehend?'"
Some fans ( not nesscairly Catalancs here btw) simply see this game as black and white. You go because you are and England fan and support England no matter who they play.
Many like myself are purely Wigan fans and it’s gotta be something really special to make me go to an RL match when Wigan aren’t on show and England vs France isn’t a good enough reason.
I’m the first to admit I’m not majorly patriotic and I’m although it’s good to see England do well it doesn’t hold the same regard as what watching Wigan does. The games I’ve been watching England play in have been based on A-Location and B-Who they are playing. I went to the four nations games as I wanted to see the excellent Aussie RL players play and not because I’m a diehard England supporter.
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| Quote ="thepriestman85"Some fans ( not nesscairly Catalancs here btw) simply see this game as black and white. You go because you are and England fan and support England no matter who they play.
Many like myself are purely Wigan fans and it’s gotta be something really special to make me go to an RL match when Wigan aren’t on show and England vs France isn’t a good enough reason.
I’m the first to admit I’m not majorly patriotic and I’m although it’s good to see England do well it doesn’t hold the same regard as what watching Wigan does. The games I’ve been watching England play in have been based on A-Location and B-Who they are playing. I went to the four nations games as I wanted to see the excellent Aussie RL players play and not because I’m a diehard England supporter.'"
Exactly. Nothing wrong IMO in weighing up the pros and cons then making your decision. In my case, we where going to have a box at LSV but trying to get info was like trying to get blood out of a stone. ATEOTD we said "stuff it" and will watch it on TV. If we were playing the Aussies it would be a different matter.
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