Unfortunately, I think it may be too late for him to redeem himself, as replacing a head coach is the sort of move a club has to start engineering at an early stage.

I guess that's one drawback of coaching a team that only performs at the tail-end of the season.

If that's the case, then I can't begrudge the decision regardless of how our season ends.

I think we have seen enough bad this season at times, but I accept your point.

But have we seen any different than 90% of oher clubs?

I would suspect that some of the rugby Hudds have served up wouldn't be good enough for our fans even "If" the results were slightly better?

I totally agree that the 2 x starts we have had last 2 x years havent been good enough However there is a fine line between success and failure on this front.

We were on the wrong end of 2 or 3 50/50 games early season and I have no doubt that could have put a totally different spin on our season as a whole.
Is that Nobles fault, well ultimately he's the man with his head on the block, and that's why I wouldn't mind changing coaches irrespective of GF results etc.

The right man Long term is the right man irrespective of results this week.

I just think that certain fans have made up their mind and the 1st negative thing to happen to the club, which will inevitably happen as it will happen with all clubs, and the whole Circus will start again!

That's why Im voting NO! And that's not because I am against BN staying just I don't think he can do any right in the eyes of some.

I'm not a fan of Nobby's style of RL and I was quite happy for him to be given the shove mid season. In hindsight that wouldn't have been a good idea. Some of the rugby we've started playing is very entertaining but it doesn't cover the issues we've had at the start of the year. I do expect some shock results throughout the course of the year and losing to Celtic wouldn't have been so hard to swallow if it was just a blip. Loses to Castleford, Hull, Wakey, Catalan & Warrington effectively ruined what could have been a good season for us and if we'd won those games we'd have been in second place.

Getting to the GF would be great but it still doesn't hide the fact that we've been underachieving in the league for a few years now.

Will I be happy for us to win the final? Of course. Will I be happy for Noble to go if we win? I suspect that decision was made months ago though.

I thought you were leaving this thread ?









The simple fact with Noble is that people do not agree about him.
No view is right 100% No view is 100% wrong...

Now here is a good idea...


LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM... or any point in between...


ffs will you lot grow up and spend a couple of days getting brhind the team and enjoying the fact that we are 80 minutes from a Grand Final.

SURELY THAT SHOULD BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION FOR A DAY OR TWO.


LEAVE THIS TILL THE SEASON IS OVER EH?

What you joining in for then?

Who asked you!



2 0' clock at the club then? It would be Rude Not too wouldn't it?

That's a lot of questions for a man who'd supposedly had enough of this subject.



But there's a simple answer.

IL will have got it wrong (in my opinion), if he replaces Noble with someone who's credentials aren't as good as Noble's.

Let's not get into all these silly ifs, buts and what-ifs. You know exactly what I mean. The chairman needs to replace Nobby with someone who is highly rated and I don't just mean because he's a nice guy or because, for example, 'he's a Wiganer'. He needs to be someone very promising for this club, not just someone who 'fancies having a go at it'.

If IL does this, and the new guy gets it wrong (i.e. if the Wigan team plays as badly under him as it has under Noble), I won't blame IL. He can only do so much, and if he's appointed the new man on form then he can't be held accountable. As to what happens then, Heaven only knows, though I suspect IL will give him plenty time to prove himself - let's be honest, he gave Nobby an extra year when many said that he shouldn't.

I think the easy answer which a few people have said is that it's already been sorted out if he is staying or not. If we win the GF then I wouldn't mind just to see if he could build on that and the players would know they are some of the best.

First job for the new coach IMO is making Robin Park a fortress... BN has not done this.

Then were not too far apart on the subject.

Some however seem to want to sack him irrespective of wether we have a better option, just anyone other than Nobby!

OR

Some would keep him just because of 1 GF appearance and not because he is or isn't the right man for the next 2/3 years!

It is a done deal , is it not ? I think its a real tough call, but then again I think we are in real need of continuity at Wigan I would like to see him stay I think and maybe bring shaun wane into the fold to work more with first team with one eye on the future .

I'd keep him, even if we don't make the final.

Of course I'd keep him.

All the morons that said otherwise could look back to this thread and ask themselves how they came to their conclusion if we don't do more than "just reach the GF in 2009" in future years with a prospective new coach.

PS: Before the bombardment starts, re-read the question, it doesn't include any caveats suggesting "if a decision has been made already", it clearly states "would you keep him if we got there"

I think the original question is accademic anyway. I'm quite sure Nobby's employment is already sorted for next year and beyond! I thank Nobby for developing our club as it is deffo in a much better position now than it was when he came. To answer the original question, NO I wouldn't keep him if we got to GF unless we had no alternative. I don't think WANE should go from reserve team coach to 1st team. I'd like to see Michael Maguire with WANE as assistant.

I think he should go for the reasons explained on the other thread.

Those suggesting that we might not replace him with anyone better are correct, there is a risk that we end up with a less able coach than BN but I think we have to trust in IL that he will find someone with new ideas and with the drive and determination to take Wigan that final step to closing the gap on our rivals and then pushing us on to regain our status as the leading club in British RL...

Morons, eh?

So we've had 'thick', 'stubbon', 'mule-headed', and now we've got 'morons' ... despite several posters going out of their way to explain as eloquently as possible why they'd prefer someone else, and getting almost no reasoned response to most of the points they've put forward.

I'd suggest that some contributors to this forum haven't had their best week.

Couldn't agree more, I've already expressed similar opinions on this before and come to the same coaching conclusion as you.

I agree and that's what happens every year. We should have beaten an average Warrington side to reach Wembley. I can't erase that from my mind.

I certainly would not do the latter.

As to the former you need to define what you mean by "a better option" given carrying on as we have this last three seasons with Noble in charge is definitely not an option in itself IMO. IMO keeping him on because there is no "better option" would likely mean we would be no better and so I'd expect another slow start and another 11 or 12 losses in 2010.

Look at it from that way and even an inexperienced coach such as Wane looks a promising candidate.

Dave

Just ask yourselves this question... How many coaches would have nearly two thirds of supporters wanting them out EVEN if they take the club to the glory of a grand final? When you answer that question you will be a lot closer to knowing what the good, intelligent folk of Wigan think of that lugubrious clown and his ideas on how rugby should be played.

For those who are now dropping their trousers for him i suggest you look back to the magic victory over Saints when the strong rumour at the time was the team finally railroaded what he was asking of them and played for themselves. Same again perhaps?

A mindless thing to say IMO, what have Wigan got to be spiteful for?

I dont think any coach could make us a dominant force

If we win the grand final then 2 year deal.

If we get to the grand final then 1 year deal.

If we get beat then its time for a new face.

Regardless of what happens we need a new assistant e.g. Wane and a new conditioner to get Feka and Riddell fitter and Fielden and Coley bigger.