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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Lee Smiths off to Union as soon as Leeds season is over.'"
Ellis would be great and would do the job like he used to for Leeds but he is not quick enough against their backs.
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| i think deep down we all know that Sinfield would be selected above lockers. Wrong imo but will be the case.
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| Tony Smith will drop a lot of players who let him down in the World Cup.
Can't see L Pryce for one being in there.
Pack wise I think he'll start with - Morley, Moore, Carvell, Peacock, Burgess, Ellis, with Graham, Roby, Crabtree & Lockers on the bench. No backs or halves on the bench.
As for backs, well heaven help us! That's all we've got left!
Briscoe, Fox, Shenton, Gleeson, Hall, McGuire, Burrow.
Smith will probably go with Tomkins & Myler v France and maybe the Kiwis.
How many of that lot would get into an NRL first team never mind SofO or Intl squads.
Lockers is getting better every season. If he could just stay away from those injuries.
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Pack wise I think he'll start with - Morley, Moore, Carvell, Peacock, Burgess, Ellis, with Graham, Roby, Crabtree & Lockers on the bench. No backs or halves on the bench.'"
Thats my pack, different bench:
Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
Morley
SOL
Carvell
Crabtree
Burgess
Roby
Quote ="Father Ted"As for backs, well heaven help us! That's all we've got left!
Briscoe, Fox, Shenton, Gleeson, Hall, McGuire, Burrow.
Smith will probably go with Tomkins & Myler v France and maybe the Kiwis.
How many of that lot would get into an NRL first team never mind SofO or Intl squads.'"
Pryce
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Gleeson
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| Briscoe
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| Richards drop outs are monsters
Funny aswell when he tried to fly to catch Sean O'Loughlin pass that was miles forward He looked like Superman.
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All things being equal, I think Smith will put Higham on the bench anyway, so Roby/Moore will be fighting for a starting spot.
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All things being equal, I think Smith will put Higham on the bench anyway, so Roby/Moore will be fighting for a starting spot.
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| Quote ="AJ"Oh
All things being equal, I think Smith will put Higham on the bench anyway, so Roby/Moore will be fighting for a starting spot.'"
I think Diskin has probably had his poorest season in a Leeds shirt this year.
I think Roby and Moore are both comfortably better players than Higham, although Moore does have a lot of errors and penalties in his game.
Anyway, sorry to go off topic . . . .
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| What about Lee Gillmour in the in leiu of Atkins?
He has always doen a job there when selected at Saints.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"i think deep down we all know that Sinfield would be selected above lockers. Wrong imo but will be the case.'"
I don't think Smith will pick Sinfield over O'Loughlin.
Lockers did a great job for him in the 2007 series win over the Kiwi's and was selected at the first opportunity possible against the French this season over Sinfield.
He also had Sinfield in and out of his side for the World cup and didn't appear convinced by him as an international player.
I think like me Smith realises Sinfield is a fine superleague player but isn't physically upto international Rugbyleague.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I think like me Smith realises Sinfield is a fine superleague player but isn't physically upto international Rugbyleague.'"
Agreed, same with Wilkin.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"The tackle from Lockers on the end of it was even better.
Glad the nonsensical criticism of SOL has stopped on here, cracking player who'd run through walls for Wigan. Hope he's England's 13 later this year and would be amazed if he isn't.'"
O Loughlin is Wigan's version of Harry Pinner.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I don't think Smith will pick Sinfield over O'Loughlin.
Lockers did a great job for him in the 2007 series win over the Kiwi's and was selected at the first opportunity possible against the French this season over Sinfield.
He also had Sinfield in and out of his side for the World cup and didn't appear convinced by him as an international player.
I think like me Smith realises Sinfield is a fine superleague player but isn't physically upto international Rugbyleague.'"
Good points. While I don't think Sean is at the same level as the Australian or New Zealand forwards, he's more of an international player than Sinfield will ever be.
Can't help but think that Sinfield gets a look in because of his kicking.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Agreed, same with Wilkin.'"
Yeah Wilkin fits into that bracket aswell. These lads just aren't big enough to dominate tackles against the big Kiwi and Aussie backrowers.
I'd play Ellis, Lockers and Burgess in the backrow and possibly have Westwood on the bench. Westwood is another player thats not as good a superleague player as Wilkin or Sinfield but just suits the international game a whole lot better.
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| Quote ="eddiewaringsflatcap"O Loughlin is Wigan's version of Harry Pinner.'"
O'Loughlin has teeth though
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"I'd play Ellis, Lockers and Burgess in the backrow and possibly have Westwood on the bench.'"
I don't think there's space for him - you'd have to leave out one of Morley, Peacock, Graham, Carvell or Crabtree and I think all of them deserve a spot in the 17 ahead of Westwood.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I don't think there's space for him - you'd have to leave out one of Morley, Peacock, Graham, Carvell or Crabtree and I think all of them deserve a spot in the 17 ahead of Westwood.'"
I'd leave Crabtree out.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"I don't think there's space for him - you'd have to leave out one of Morley, Peacock, Graham, Carvell or Crabtree and I think all of them deserve a spot in the 17 ahead of Westwood.'"
Crabtree would be my question mark.
He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.
He has improved though and would be in my squad.
The other 4 are definates imo.
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Quote ="NickyKiss"Crabtree would be my question mark.
He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.'"
Only one way to find out . . . .
Carvell's missed tackle stats surprised and worried me in equal measure:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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Quote ="NickyKiss"Crabtree would be my question mark.
He'll be a target due to his size and i've always thought he goes missing a little when things get a little rough.'"
Only one way to find out . . . .
Carvell's missed tackle stats surprised and worried me in equal measure:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Only one way to find out . . . .'"
Get Morley to beat him up in training
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| I would be temted to play Lee Smith full back if Briscoe is injured otherwise I would go
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5- Hall
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8- Morley
9- Moore/Roby*
10- Peacock
11- Ellis
12- Burgess
13- O'Loughlin
14- Roby/Higham*
15- Graham
16- Crabtree (Second row)
17- Carvell
*Moore hasn't played for a few weeks, would play him V Wales to see how he handles it thn against France and tell him to cut the stupid penalties.
Lets play to our strengths by bashing them with a massive pack, quick PTB and scoots.
Back to the topic, I wouldn't like a kick up the arsse off Pat!!!
Yours in sport T.Smith
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| I thought Brough was still "Scottish".
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| Quote ="post"I would be temted to play Lee Smith full back if Briscoe is injured otherwise I would go
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7- Brough/Burrow
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9- Moore/Roby*
10- Peacock
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12- Burgess
13- O'Loughlin
14- Roby/Higham*
15- Graham
16- Crabtree (Second row)
17- Carvell
*Moore hasn't played for a few weeks, would play him V Wales to see how he handles it thn against France and tell him to cut the stupid penalties.
Lets play to our strengths by bashing them with a massive pack, quick PTB and scoots.
Back to the topic, I wouldn't like a kick up the arsse off Pat!!!
Yours in sport T.Smith
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| He changed it I'm sure early on in the year.
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