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| I alway hoped he'd turn his form round, but sadly it doesn't seem like he will.
He's lost the aura he had round him after Mason decked him then the fight against Radford.
I don't know if anyone recalls it (sure you will) but i think back to a game against Saints and that joker Wilkin was beckoning him to stick one on him, Fielden just played the ball and did nothing. He might have been sent off, but i think if he'd just smashed wilkin in the face and started a brawl, it might just show he had some knackers left and show people he won't take it.
I noticed on friday how on several occasions the dummy half and half backs completely left him out of the moves at times, and would pass it past him. I watched the game again on sky+ when i got home and counted 6/7 occasions when he was in a position to take a carry and was not passed the ball.
So the players must realise it as well.
It's such a shame, because i honestly think if we had the Fielden that smashed west tigers to pieces, we would have the prop we desparately crave.
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"I noticed on friday how on several occasions the dummy half and half backs completely left him out of the moves at times, and would pass it past him. I watched the game again on sky+ when i got home and counted 6/7 occasions when he was in a position to take a carry and was not passed the ball.
So the players must realise it as well.'"
Aye my uncle pointed that out to me at the time as well. You can hardly blame them though, we were getting a roll on and he might have screwed it up.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior".Someone with a better wit than me should dream up a good chant for him, get it sung and out of curiosity see what reaction we get.'"
Even when it was obvious he wasn't the player he was at Bradford during the whole 2007 season and most of 2008 I seem to remember most fans cheering him if he made more than five yards and loving it if he bounced off a few players.
He even got some polite applause when that happened on Friday. I think most Wigan fans, me included, want Fielden to perform more than most on the pitch because if he did he would give us what we crave in the prop department and we would see one of the best props in the SL era back to his best so for me the fans have actually be lenient with him.
Unfortunately though nothing will improve his game because he has lost it for good.
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| A Wigan fan has just been on the phone-in on GMR slating htis thread!
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| Quote ="Renegade"Even when it was obvious he wasn't the player he was at Bradford during the whole 2007 season and most of 2008 I seem to remember most fans cheering him if he made more than five yards and loving it if he bounced off a few players.
He even got some polite applause when that happened on Friday. I think most Wigan fans, me included, want Fielden to perform more than most on the pitch because if he did he would give us what we crave in the prop department and we would see one of the best props in the SL era back to his best so for me the fans have actually be lenient with him.
Unfortunately though nothing will improve his game because he has lost it for good.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="MikePB"A Wigan fan has just been on the phone-in on GMR slating htis thread!'"
Prob a relation
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| i remember several times when stu came to the jjb with bradford, he looked mean and fired up, even during the warm ups before the game. i think he had a lot of brute force forwards alongside him at the bulls that enabled him to gain his fearful reputation, he came to wigan and at first brought some of that aggression with him, i think he genuinely beleived he was one of rugbys hard men, unfortunately at wigan he did not have anyone alongside him to back him up, he has gradually run out of steam, but once his reputation had gone with the mason incident and to a lesser extent the radford boxing match, i just think the guy has lost face and he just doesn't want to be here anymore, but he won't walk away because of the money he is on. if he has anything about him he should do the decent thing and pack in or move from wigan, i think that would probably get him some respect back from the fans. feel sorry for the guy and gutted how things have turned out for us, thought at the time he was going to be one of the greatest signings we had ever made.
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| Quote ="MikePB"A Wigan fan has just been on the phone-in on GMR slating htis thread!'"
He didn't just slate the thread, he also said Fielden was in the top 3 props in SL. I doubt he's even in the top 3 props at Wigan.
He's obviously spent the afternoon on the ale.
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| Quote ="MikePB"A Wigan fan has just been on the phone-in on GMR slating htis thread!'"
Wasn't a sandwich shop owner from Keighley was it?
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What was the "sandwich" of the day today?
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| Quote ="Earthworm Jim"
I don't know if anyone recalls it (sure you will) but i think back to a game against Saints and that joker Wilkin was beckoning him to stick one on him, Fielden just played the ball and did nothing. He might have been sent off, but i think if he'd just smashed wilkin in the face and started a brawl, it might just show he had some knackers left and show people he won't take it.
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Wilkin would have flattened him
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| Quote ="AJ"What was the "sandwich" of the day today?'"
6" meatball with extra cheese.
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| I genuinely feel sorry for Fielden who clearly tries hard but usually makes little impact carrying the ball forward. He tackles hard and gets through a lot of defensive work but it's a shame what has happened to him.
I really hope he refinds some good form soon. FWIW, I thought Fielden had a good second half Vs Leeds.
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| Quote ="Wigan/Leeds Andy"Wasn't a sandwich shop owner from Keighley was it?'"
He's a co-owner.
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So a sandwich shop owner like I said then.
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| Quote ="Eastbourne Warrior"I don't think it is time for him to retitre neither do i think he has lost his appetite for the game. Remember the try he scored a few matches back and his reaction afterwards.
He came here with a big reputation and reportibly on a big contract and since his arrival we have not had another quality prop to back him up. Feka is good in bursts, coley is decent enough and then we have just had kids. If we do sign this 'enforcer' prop for next year and some of the pressure is lifted from his shoulders i think we would see a better player. At Bradford he had Vagana, Anderson and Peacock.
Also he has had a lot of stick from the crowds aswell as on places like this. I've said this about others before. If we support our players instead of giving them stick (even if sometimes they deserve it) it can only help improve peformance and confidence which counts for a lot in this game.
Someone with a better wit than me should dream up a good chant for him, get it sung and out of curiosity see what reaction we get.'"
Its already been suggested a few weeks ago.....the same song we used to sing at Jamie Ainscough.....recon it needs resurrecting;
Stuart Fielden la la la la la
Stuart Fielden la laa laa laa laa laa
Stuart Fielden la la la la la
He looks like he doesn't give a 5h1t la la la!!
Cant remember what the tune to it was actually called though....someone post a link!
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| Quote ="Paul2812"He didn't just slate the thread, he also said Fielden was in the top 3 props in SL. I doubt he's even in the top 3 props at Wigan.
He's obviously spent the afternoon on the ale.
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No he didn't!
He said he was the 3rd best tackling prop in SL.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"FWIW, I thought Fielden had a good second half Vs Leeds.'"
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No he didn't!
He said he was the 3rd best tackling prop in SL.'"
AJ.
Defence doesn't matter on here does it.
Get rid of Fielden, Hansen and O'Loughlin.
Part of Fieldens problem is that he taking the field at the same time as Feka, so is having to do a lot of his tackling.
When he was on with Prescott in the second half on Friday he was far better.
It's generally the same people who wanted Ainscough in place of Roberts and Higham to stay.
As Piggy and Roberts are playing well and Pryce is not in the team they need another scapegoat.
This board will explore with anger when we eventually lose a game. Trust me.
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| i think a problem with fielden is that he does not have enough weight on him, hes pure muscle and is a fantastic athlete but a prop forward needs to have a bit of beef on them- look at the size of morley and peacock, fielden used to have a similar appearance but he has definately been in decline since aussie 06
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"i think a problem with fielden is that he does not have enough weight on him, hes pure muscle and is a fantastic athlete but a prop forward needs to have a bit of beef on them- look at the size of morley and peacock, fielden used to have a similar appearance but he has definately been in decline since aussie 06'"
perhaps if we sign 2 props for next season, we should try him in the 2nd row, i know it's usually the other way round, but owts worth a try.
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I just thought I'd see how bad / good was on comparison to the other Wigan props.
v Coley
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=420&hs2=2009&hp2=29&stat=marker_tackles&season=2009[/url
v Prescott
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
v Feka
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=29&stat=marker_tackles&season=2009[/url
Now those stats suggest to me that he is still our best ALLROUND prop particularly defensively around the ruck.
What he needs to do is cut out the errors and penalties.
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I just thought I'd see how bad / good was on comparison to the other Wigan props.
v Coley
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=420&hs2=2009&hp2=29&stat=marker_tackles&season=2009[/url
v Prescott
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009
v Feka
[urlhttp://www.superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2009&hp1=1135&hs2=2009&hp2=29&stat=marker_tackles&season=2009[/url
Now those stats suggest to me that he is still our best ALLROUND prop particularly defensively around the ruck.
What he needs to do is cut out the errors and penalties.
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| As I said earlier, Fielden's job is basically to do the defensive work when Feka is on. Where as Coley & Prescott, share the work load. A good ploy really.
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| Quote ="jjb10"As I said earlier, Fielden's job is basically to do the defensive work when Feka is on. Where as Coley & Prescott, share the work load. A good ploy really.'"
But Fielden is getting no praise for it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Fielden is getting no praise for it.
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Unfortunately us as Wigan fans, like or dislike a player from the first moment we see him. Feka "great player he make's all these barn storming runs", fans favorite: Mathers "crap player cant catch etc", Don't like him: Fielden "earns too much money heart not in it", dont like him: Bailey "take's too much up in salary cap", don't like him. Not so long back it was lockers who was getting it, cant lead, too much pressure etc. Not to mention Danny Orr, Vaealiki, Moran and wasn't so long back Richards was getting it.
Fielden, gets stick A) for his price tag, B) what he is ment too earn, C) He's from Yorkshire and we have never really taken too him.
The fact that he has come to a club in transition with a young and un balanced pack and is expected to be the same prop he was for the Bulls Just isn't going too happen. When he came we had a fit Feka, Scott Logan, Jerry Seuseu, Bryn Hargreeves and Bryan Fletcher. A good pack. Now we have a over weight Feka, a blown up prop / 2nd row & 2 kids.
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