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| Nothing as far as i can see said before he is a FB or SO not a centre put young Josh at FB and sam and Phelps in the halves tommy to 9 makes sence and as you say what can we loose
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Maybe this is the right time then to give Phelps a run at 6. Why not? He could prove to be quality.'"
He's played under 17's, under 19's, NSW and Australian Junior kangaroos at stand off and earned a real reputation with some impressive performances. Just read the comments! Aussies really rated him as a 5/8th and it's his preferred position and most natural.
Why not give him a shot?
I would put a healthy bet he could do a better job at six than Martin Gleeson.
He could be a gem for us and we might not need a new halfback.
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| Going off all those it would look Phelps is our man for 6. I'd give Mossop a game aswell with him being back and superleague ready.
Roberts
Pryce
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Phelps
S Tomkins
Coley
Leuluai
Prescott
Mossop
Bailey
J Tomkins
subs
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| Quote ="cadoo"He's played under 17's, under 19's, NSW and Australian Junior kangaroos at stand off and earned a real reputation with some impressive performances. Just read the comments! Aussies really rated him as a 5/8th and it's his preferred position and most natural.
Why not give him a shot?
I would put a healthy bet he could do a better job at six than Martin Gleeson.
He could be a gem for us and we might not need a new halfback.'"
I agree that I would be dumb not to have a look at him there.
Realistically Noble won't bring in Sam Gee.
The only decisions I'm struggling with are whether to play Pryce or Ainscough on the wing and whether to play Farrell or Flanagan.
Roberts
Richards
Carmont
Gleeson
Pryce
Phelps
Tomkins
Coley
Leuluai
Prescott
Bailey
Mossop
Tomkins
Fielden
Feka
Farrell
Riddell
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Going off all those it would look Phelps is our man for 6. I'd give Mossop a game aswell with him being back and superleague ready.
Roberts
Pryce
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Phelps
S Tomkins
Coley
Leuluai
Prescott
Mossop
Bailey
J Tomkins
subs
Fielden
Feka
Farrell
Riddell'"
Seriously spooky!
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"Going off all those it would look Phelps is our man for 6. I'd give Mossop a game aswell with him being back and superleague ready.
Roberts
Pryce
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Phelps
S Tomkins
Coley
Leuluai
Prescott
Mossop
Bailey
J Tomkins
subs
Fielden
Feka
Farrell
Riddell'"
Sam on the bench. Piggy starts. TL plays HB then hooker until Piggy's second spell. This way Sam gets about an hour, which is quite enough for Nobby IMO.
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| Quote ="cadoo"He's played under 17's, under 19's, NSW and Australian Junior kangaroos at stand off and earned a real reputation with some impressive performances. Just read the comments! Aussies really rated him as a 5/8th and it's his preferred position and most natural.
Why not give him a shot?
I would put a healthy bet he could do a better job at six than Martin Gleeson.
He could be a gem for us and we might not need a new halfback.'"
Sounds like he could do a good job.
I never realised he played rep football all the way up to 19 at stand off!!!
We are majorly struggling at the moment to find a 6 or 7 and it’s defo worth a shot imo as if it pays off we are quids in.
Just another reason why Phelps has to stay for next season for me.
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| Quote ="MadDogg"I agree that I would be dumb not to have a look at him there.
Realistically Noble won't bring in Sam Gee.
The only decisions I'm struggling with are whether to play Pryce or Ainscough on the wing and whether to play Farrell or Flanagan.
Roberts
Richards
Carmont
Gleeson
Pryce
Phelps
Tomkins
Coley
Leuluai
Prescott
Bailey
Mossop
Tomkins
Fielden
Feka
Farrell
Riddell'"
Ainscough has not hit any form in the reserves and Rogues admitted that he shouldn't be back in the first team.
However Pryce has never looked comfortable on the wing.
Tough decision.
Mark Flanagan and Liam Farrell. Well Flanagan has had the most experience in the first team and with his loan spell at Halifax. Could also cover at six and loose forward and I think he went on loan as a second row forward so he might edge Liam Farrell. But Liam Farrell has put in some outstanding performances in the reserves I believe and is the player most in form.
For utility purposes as Flanagan has played at stand off, hooker, Second row and Loose forward I would go with Mark Flanagan.
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| 1. Phelps
2. Roberts
3. Pryce/Glesson
4. Carmont
5. Richards
6. Tomkins
7. Tommy
8. Prescott
9. Riddell
10.Coley
11.Mossop
12.Bailey
13.Tomkins
14.Feka
15.Fielden
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| Quote ="- Neil -"Whats Phelps done wrong exactly?'"
He was christened Cameron and not Pat, either that or his middle name is Amos.
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| Gonna suggest something else...
Maybe Phelps at 7? 6 or 7 doesn't make a difference with split halves. If we keep Sam at 6 he can run off the back of Phelps attacking the line as a second receiver, which he has proven to be quality.
Phelps has more experience, so maybe let him run the game from a first receiver 7? Either which way it seems like a good time to give the Phelps/Tomkins HB pairing a go.
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| FB 5 Richards
RW 2 Roberts
RC 22 Gleeson
LC 4 Carmont
LW 3 Goulding
SO 21 Phelps
SH 7 Leuluai
P 15 Coley
H 9 Riddell
P 19 Prescott
SR 12 Bailey
SR 24 Mossop
LF 14 Joel
S 8 Fielden
S 10 Paleaaesina
S 25 Sam
S 28 Flanagan
18th man Shaun Ainscough, if Gleeson is unavailable I'd stick Ainscough on the left wing with Goulding playing right centre.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"FB 5 Richards
RW 2 Roberts
RC 22 Gleeson
LC 4 Carmont
LW 3 Goulding
SO 21 Phelps
SH 7 Leuluai
P 15 Coley
H 9 Riddell
P 19 Prescott
SR 12 Bailey
SR 24 Mossop
LF 14 Joel
S 8 Fielden
S 10 Paleaaesina
S 25 Sam
S 28 Flanagan
18th man Shaun Ainscough, if Gleeson is unavailable I'd stick Ainscough on the left wing with Goulding playing right centre.'"
Best so far.
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| Quote ="Grimmy"FB 5 Richards
RW 2 Roberts
RC 22 Gleeson
LC 4 Carmont
LW 3 Goulding
SO 21 Phelps
SH 7 Leuluai
P 15 Coley
H 9 Riddell
P 19 Prescott
SR 12 Bailey
SR 24 Mossop
LF 14 Joel
S 8 Fielden
S 10 Paleaaesina
S 25 Sam
S 28 Flanagan
18th man Shaun Ainscough, if Gleeson is unavailable I'd stick Ainscough on the left wing with Goulding playing right centre.'"
The only problem I would have with that team is Darrell Goulding on the wing. He made his debut there for Salford and had a torrid time against Les Catalans - our next opponents.
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| Quote ="cadoo"The only problem I would have with that team is Darrell Goulding on the wing. He made his debut there for Salford and had a torrid time against Les Catalans - our next opponents.'"
He's played 8 of his 9 Salford games on the wing, and he's in good form so I reckon it makes sense to play him there rather than change both his team and position in one fell swoop. He must be doing something right there, perhaps it was just a bad debut. Plus his strike rate's pretty decent at 5 tries from 9 games (4 tries from 8 games on the wing).
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| Quote ="Grimmy"He's played 8 of his 9 Salford games on the wing, and he's in good form so I reckon it makes sense to play him there rather than change both his team and position in one fell swoop. He must be doing something right there, perhaps it was just a bad debut. Plus his strike rate's pretty decent at 5 tries from 9 games (4 tries from 8 games on the wing).'"
Just don't see why he would get into the team when we have
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-Carmont
-Pat
-Roberts
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8 players to cover the 3/4 line, even with injuries and players moving positions we have plenty cover.
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| We don't need to change the whole team around.
The back line can stay the same as Friday. If Gleeson is fit then that's a bonus.
Replace Locky with Joel Tomkins at 13 and bring Mossop in to replace Hanson.
Back three
So that gives us
Phelps
Roberts
Pryce (Gleeson if fit)
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Coley
Riddell
Prescott
Bailey
Mossop
Joel
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Flanagan
Goulding (Pryce if Gleeson is fit)
I'd liked to have Sam Gee in there but somehow can't see Noble doing it.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"We don't need to change the whole team around.
The back line can stay the same as Friday. If Gleeson is fit then that's a bonus.
Replace Locky with Joel Tomkins at 13 and bring Mossop in to replace Hanson.
Back three
So that gives us
Phelps
Roberts
Pryce (Gleeson if fit)
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Coley
Riddell
Prescott
Bailey
Mossop
Joel
Subs
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Feka
Flanagan
Goulding (Pryce if Gleeson is fit)
I'd liked to have Sam Gee in there but somehow can't see Noble doing it.'"
How would you work the hooker interchange? Don't think Piggy could do 80mins
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"Just don't see why he would get into the team when we have
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-Ainscough
-Bailey
8 players to cover the 3/4 line, even with injuries and players moving positions we have plenty cover.'"
Because he's earned his chance from his time on loan, and I think it's good for academy morale if players go away on loan then come back to make the team rather than being shipped out to Widnes or wherever. Players like Thornley, Farrell, Flanagan etc will look at Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Darrell Goulding and think that it can be good for your Wigan carear to get loaned out to another club.
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"How would you work the hooker interchange? Don't think Piggy could do 80mins
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Three choices
Tommy to hooker and Flanagan to six
Tommy to hooker and Pryce to 6.
Flanagan at hooker
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| Quote ="Grimmy"Because he's earned his chance from his time on loan, and I think it's good for academy morale if players go away on loan then come back to make the team rather than being shipped out to Widnes or wherever. Players like Thornley, Farrell, Flanagan etc will look at Joel Tomkins, Lee Mossop and Darrell Goulding and think that it can be good for your Wigan carear to get loaned out to another club.'"
True, but does than warrant one of the players I mentioned missing out? Last week v Quins was arguably our best performance of the season, should Goulding be given a spot just to boost moral for the young lads?
I think the team should be moved around as little as possible.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Three choices
Tommy to hooker and Flanagan to six
Tommy to hooker and Pryce to 6.
Flanagan at hooker'"
Tommy to hooker would mean he will be doing a lot of game time at 7 and 9. He would have to be rested at some stage, probably second half.
Flanny isn't a 9.
I remember when Leeds played us at Headingly with no recognised 9, (this listed JJB there on the team sheet) they ripped us apart with who ever was closest acting as the dummy half, could this be an option?
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| Quote ="Last Son of Wigan"True, but does than warrant one of the players I mentioned missing out? Last week v Quins was arguably our best performance of the season, should Goulding be given a spot just to boost moral for the young lads?
I think the team should be moved around as little as possible.'"
3 injuries mean we don't have any choice but to change the team. As such 3 new faces are unavoidable, regardless of which ones (Gleeson, Mossop and Flanagan for me), and the other (Goulding) was just because I don't really rate Karl Pryce, especially as he's too slow for the wing, not skilfull enough for stand off and we have both our first team centres available so no point sticking him there either. There's a fair case to say Pryce should be 18th man in front of Ainscough though I suppose.
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| With Mossop & Goulding back I would suggest it will be something like:
Phelps
Roberts
Gleeson
Carmont
Richards
Sam
Tommy
Fielden
Riddell
Coley
Mossop
Bailey
Joel
Feka
Goulding/Pryce
Prescott
Flanagan
Don't see why we would bring them back to not include them. When Riddell needs a rest, Goulding/Pryce will come on and Phelps/Gleeson will go to 6 with Sam to 7 and Tommy to 9.
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| I can understand people not wanting to change the team around too much but if swapping the team around means that your team is stronger then it is worth doing.
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