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| Via Huddersfield
Like Crabtree who is a local lad too.
8/10 for effort, minus several million for getting the point.
I wasnt having a go at Wigans academy programme, but the mindnumbingly stupid way in which the talented young players are cast off in favour of second rate bread stealers looking to build on their pension
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| This was true under the previous regeime, who effectively left our pay structure bolloxed!
3-4 players on megamoney, whilst the majority were on lower wages, plus over the cap 2 years running!
We've had to improve our playing squad this season (and last) with some low paid players on short term contracts to allow us to improve contracts elsewhere to achieve balance, but they are still not there yet (Fielden / Bailey).
Like I said, we've seen enough of Ainscough, Sam Tomkins, Joel Tomkins, Paul Prescott to know that these are the new breed and mistakes that have been made in the past will not be repeated.
Our chairmans vision is to see a top class team made up of:
8-10 Top Class Local Lads.
3-4 Top Class UK Players
3-4 World Class Imports.
With 1-2 Local lads making the first team squad year on year on a rotating basis.
A similar structure to when we were successful back in the 90's.
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| Quote ="Code13"When does his contract run out, sure Wigan will ship him and tompkins on in favour of a 30yr old ocker at that point.'"
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| Quote ="Code13"
I wasnt having a go at Wigans academy programme, but the mindnumbingly stupid way in which the talented young players are cast off in favour of second rate bread stealers looking to build on their pension'"
Yes and that's why the current board have stated that our young players will not be going anywhere at the expense of aging aussies. Keep up at the back will you.
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| SO why are so many Wigan fans desperate to find someone new to sign?
Hey, I hope you do keep your young kids, local kids playing for their home club is what its about, while we had 4 local lads in our team last night, there are as many again on the fringes, last week agaisnt quins we had 5 or 6 and its the way ahead for all clubs.
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| Quote ="NickNJ"Yes and that's why the current board have stated that our young players will not be going anywhere at the expense of aging aussies. Keep up at the back will you.'"
I suppose a small number will have to:
1) Our Reserve & Academy Teams are successful year on year and we couldn't manage to keep ALL the young players.
2) Super League would collapse as the 'usual clubs' who have depended on our surplus would either cease to exist or suddenly realise they have to stand on their own two feet an recruit from within!
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| Quote ="Meyt N Prater Pie"Fair play to the lad, hes come and done a great job but I have a feeling Sean Long will absolutely pepper him when they come here. And with the massive leap of 6 foot 2 Ade Gardner, I think he may score a pot full.
On the hand, we'd desparatley miss his attacking presence. The height thing is certainly a worry for me
opinions...?'"
Couldn't agree more as there is no doubt he'll be in for a very busy game , he'll sink or swim but our other options are equally shaky.
For me, it's more a question of managing him rather than hoping he stands up to the constant pressure he'll be under, if Long kicks him to death then his development may go backwards for a while. On the other hand you can't always wrap him up in cotton wool, i'll sit on the fence with this one
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| Quote ="Code13"SO why are so many Wigan fans desperate to find someone new to sign?
Hey, I hope you do keep your young kids, local kids playing for their home club is what its about, while we had 4 local lads in our team last night, there are as many again on the fringes, last week agaisnt quins we had 5 or 6 and its the way ahead for all clubs.'"
I'm not (for this season).
For next I want Bailey / Phelps / Smith / Mathers out.
And in I want a good quality enforcer (S*hithouse) prop and a decent centre. If one of those players has good leadership / captain qualities, even better!
I also want the club not to renew Noble's contract. The Wigan public need to see something different on the field than what we've seen for the last 2 years, cause this has been mindnumbingly boring since we stayed up in 2006.
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| Play him, this game doesn't matter the league isn't won in April
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"Play him, this game doesn't matter the league isn't won in April
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| Quote ="Code13"SO why are so many Wigan fans desperate to find someone new to sign?
Hey, I hope you do keep your young kids, local kids playing for their home club is what its about, while we had 4 local lads in our team last night, there are as many again on the fringes, last week agaisnt quins we had 5 or 6 and its the way ahead for all clubs.'"
Reserves have just finished:
Wigan 40 Hudds 6
Top of the league, unbeaten.
The foundations are there, as they always have been!
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| Sorry if I missed posted already - cant recall Jason robinson being a giant - nobody ever dropped him even in twickers kick a lot. Play him. Be great to see him mano a mano on Wellens!
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| Thought of dropping him doesn't even enter my mind. He's the king of winger we've been missing since Carney and Dallas. His scoots take the pressure off the forwards, his finishing is class and he plays with his heart out.
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| yes i would
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| I was waiting for someone to say something about ainscough - Some of you men on here are just to predictable - The lad lets one try in and boom, this 'amazing star' who a week ago you were calling the next Jason Robinson gets slated and there's doubts over whether or not he should play against saints.
Don't know who said it but why drop Bailey? Why? Absolutley no idea some people on here.
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| Quote ="LordLoveRocket87"I was waiting for someone to say something about ainscough - Some of you men on here are just to predictable - The lad lets one try in and boom, this 'amazing star' who a week ago you were calling the next Jason Robinson gets slated and there's doubts over whether or not he should play against saints.
Don't know who said it but why drop Bailey? Why? Absolutley no idea some people on here.'"
I thought Bailey played well last night.
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| Quote ="wigan_knight"icon_lol.gif
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Randy? Bubbles?
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| Rest him and Sam too. No point damaging them mantally in a Saints mauling. Let our crap Aussies suffer that indignity.
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| Play him. The only way to gain experience is to do it. And if he gets dropped how will that affect his confidence? As has already been said, our season is shot, and I'm hoping they can only get better, by playing together.
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| Play em. Lets give Saints sommat to worry about. Sam & Sean will cause more problems than Smith and Phelps.
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| They MUST both play against saints. To drop either is a step backwards. These two are the only light at the end of the tunnel at the moment.
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| I would play more than just Sam and Sean
Lets get the dead wood out and put some passion back into the ancient and loyal.
I'm sounding like a broken record today about this and i'm sorry.but the lack of passion and commitment as really p!ssed me right off
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