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| Quote ="thepriestman85"I said this a good 12 months ago he's still a big guy but imo he's not as big as what he used to be?
Such a fall from grace from the guy who was heads and shoulders above Peacock when they played together!
Honestly maybe a change of clubs or coaches will do him a world of good. Time for Fielden to experience life outside of Nobles coaching?'"
Do not want to get accused of a anti Noble post but it is very very rare 2 people with a coach athlete relationship stay together for so long and have success.
The situation can result in stagnation and i think that is one of the issue with Fielden.
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| Quote ="jonh"
The situation can result in stagnation and i think that is one of the issue with Fielden.'"
I certainly agree with this.
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| Quote ="Madderzahatter"and i think that is the problem. He must be earning the most money at the club yet his contribution to the team just doesn't seem to justify it... I'm sick of seeing home just waltz into a tackle - whatever happened to running onto the ball at pace (something Feka does all the time)'"
which was exactly my point he isnt worth the money we pay him
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| All in all, i dont think Wigan wil renew his contract, im sure we have him until the end of 2010 though. Signed a 4 year deal IIRC.
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| I don't think that Fielden's heart has ever been at Wigan. When his contract ends, he will return to Bradford, or possibly Leeds, and look to regain his form and passion.
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| not wigan quality
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"If you look at Fielden when he was at Bradford, he looked massive, particularly around his shoulders. He seems to have lost a lot of 'muscle' - I would certainly put him at two stone lighter than when he joined.
He looks more like a second rower than a prop, but he's too slow to play second row.
Basically, he needs to regain that weight (and presumably power) that he's lost.'"
My physio is his physio too, Fielden is pure muscle according to him.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"My physio is his physio too, Fielden is pure muscle according to him.'"
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| Quote ="Lucas Keeeeeench"which was exactly my point he isnt worth the money we pay him'"
Yeah we can say that now but when we signed him not many people thought he wasn't worth that wage. It's hardly his fault Uncle Mo threw money at him. Having said that sometimes I think he isn't earning his wage but most I think he does, IMO he can be the most hard-working player for Wigan - although that statement is laughable if you take into account the stats from Leeds.
I want Fielden to stay, I just think he needs more help in the front row. Feka doesn't do long enough for me - granted he works hard when he's on and he makes some terrific runs and yards but IMO he needs to work harder on his match fitness. We need a new prop.
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| sadly, imo opinion, fielden will go down as a wigan flop
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| From the League Express Opta Stats
Fielden topped the tackle count 37. OLoughlin 36
Fielden topped the missed tackle count 6. Hock 5. Carmont 4.
Fielden made the least carries in the entire 17 with 3
Fielden made 22 metres
Fielden made 1 handling error. Hock made the most 5
Fielden conceded 0 penalties
OLoughlin and Riddel conceded 2 penalties each
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| Quote ="Joe Egan"From the League Express Opta Stats
Fielden topped the tackle count 37. OLoughlin 36
Fielden topped the missed tackle count 6. Hock 5. Carmont 4.
Fielden made the least carries in the entire 17 with 3
Fielden made 22 metres
Fielden made 1 handling error. Hock made the most 5
Fielden conceded 0 penalties
OLoughlin and Riddel conceded 2 penalties each'"
Got through aload of tackles but was woeful in attack, not good!
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"My physio is his physio too, Fielden is pure muscle according to him.'"
He is. Seeing him with no top on (no jokes please) he looks like a body builder, he's got a great physique with plenty of lean muscle. However it's hardly the perfect build for a prop forward is it. Realistically before next season he could put a stone on and whilst he might not look as good on the beach at least he might not get smashed in half his carries.
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| Quote ="PaulM"He is. Seeing him with no top on (no jokes please) he looks like a body builder, he's got a great physique with plenty of lean muscle. However it's hardly the perfect build for a prop forward is it. Realistically before next season he could put a stone on and whilst he might not look as good on the beach at least he might not get smashed in half his carries.'"
I agree but I get the impression that Fielden is intent on keeping his huge muscular frame, Noble told him to 'go and get fat' at end of last season, he never did.
Credit to Fielden, he's keeping his build because he wants to be the best athlete he can be, sometimes it work's against him. What people don't realise is that Fielden puts his all in, it comes off sometimes, others it doesn't but no-one could fault him on his effort and desire.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"I agree but I get the impression that Fielden is intent on keeping his huge muscular frame, Noble told him to 'go and get fat' at end of last season, he never did.
Credit to Fielden, he's keeping his build because he wants to be the best athlete he can be, sometimes it work's against him. What people don't realise is that Fielden puts his all in, it comes off sometimes, others it doesn't but no-one could fault him on his effort and desire.'"
What if he is gun shy though? Many believe he lost it after Mason punched his lights out. You can have the greatest physique in the world but the willingness to drive it in?
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| If it really is true that Fielden only made 3 carries all game and as I said before it wouldn't surprise me, he deserves to be flogged in training this week.
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| Quote ="Joe Egan"What if he is gun shy though? Many believe he lost it after Mason punched his lights out. You can have the greatest physique in the world but the willingness to drive it in?'"
Exactly, maybe it is he's lost some of his 'bottle' after all in that one year he did suffer alot mentally, emotionally and physically death of a parent and the knock-out blow from Mason.
Is all that still on his mind? Maybe so, but if it is he should use it as a motivator, as a powerful tool to relive his "glory days". He's still a good player but if he wishes to be great he needs to block whatever it is thats stopping him, out.
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| I think we've been waiting too long for him to get back to his best. I like the guy and can't fault his effort of commitment most weeks but this isn't a bad run of form. This is years of play below the standard we hoped for when we signed him and I just don't think he's ever going to regain the level he was when people were, quite rightly, calling him the best prop in the world. Once his deal is up, he'll be offered much less, I think. I still believe he can do a job for us, as in the latter half of 2008 without ever getting back his Bradford form, but the club will have to make a commercial decision on him. For all Noble's closeness with him, Lenagan may make the final call on this one.
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| Last season when he had the captaincy for a few games was the time he had his best spell at Wigan, why not make him captain again? We have nothing to lose as our present capt is breaking no pots and whilst on about props I think Feka`s tackling is very poor, he may make a couple of decent efforts throughout a game but overall is not up to standard.
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| Quote ="brewedindublin"Last season when he had the captaincy for a few games was the time he had his best spell at Wigan, why not make him captain again?'"
Worth a try. I like Lockers as much as anyone, but his captaincy is hardly sensational.
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| Quote ="brewedindublin"Last season when he had the captaincy for a few games was the time he had his best spell at Wigan, why not make him captain again? '"
I think it is definitely worth a shot even if it is making him co captain
We all know Stu has it in him and I think if he got back to his end of 2008 form no-one would complain about him and think he does a decent job for us
Anyone think we should spend a pile of money on a decent sports psychologist? Fielden and Hock could both do with one
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"I think it is definitely worth a shot even if it is making him co captain
We all know Stu has it in him and I think if he got back to his end of 2008 form no-one would complain about him and think he does a decent job for us
Anyone think we should spend a pile of money on a decent sports psychologist? Fielden and Hock could both do with one
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I totally agree, Fielden had his best spell when made captain last season and I thought he relishes it to IMO....Lets Lockers play his natural game without the added captains pressure it brings
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| Hasn't anyone noticed he had the likes of Vagana Peacock and Anderson with him in the pack at Bradford. Now he's got a combination of midgets (comparitively) and lard ar*es to work with him. I ceratinly agree he hasn't performed at Wigan but I know which pack I'd rather be in.
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| Who is next in line to make the step up from the reserves if anyone gets injuried/suspended etc? He may have to step up his game if someone gets promoted and does well and provides some competition.
I feel sorry for him as I rated him alot when he was at Bradford but I think he's just lost an edge over the past couple of seasons, he's no longer in a side like he was at Bradford which would dominate sides and as menionted he had the likes of Peacock, Vagana and Anderson around him to support him.
He's been playing at this level since a teenager at prop and surely that must be catching him up and taken alot out of him making him not as effective now. I still think he's your best prop.
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| Quote ="100% Warrior"My physio is his physio too, Fielden is pure muscle according to him.'"
I'm not disputing that. He's clearly in great shape, but is he in the 'right' shape to do a prop forward's job?
You have to be fit to play rugby league, but to be a prop you also need weight behind you. it looks well when a fat blob like Feka does more damage than a finely honed athlete like Fielden.
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