Yes, it does, because you won a trophy, I didnt say we were successful, I said we were closer to success than Bradford.

Salary cap.

I can only agree with all that, really dissappointed with tonight's performance. The only thing I dispute is that we have a leader in Morro.

Why fail to answer the question?

Bradford have fallen a long way since the days of the awesome foursome with Henry & Robbie at half back.
They were scary then.

One of the worst posts ever and i am suprised it came from you AJ normally a good poster.

You are seriously blaming the loss to Les Cats in the semi on the Whelan and Lindsay Salary Cap issues?

That's right, we had good ball retention and good field position so they were always under pressure, makes a change from putting ourselves under pressure recently. So it was us being good as well as Bradford being poor.

They were very poor, one of the worst performances i have seen from them in years. The kicking game from Deacon & Jeffries was poor and pretty much no go forward from the bradford pack.

Losing wagga. and possibly platt & newton in the next couple of weeks wont exactly help them either.

We had lost points yet again just a few days before. There was zero effort from the players that day, and it forced the hand, Maurice walked.

i dont think enough credit is being given to wigan over this , bradfut werent allowed to play ,

we controlled the ball and the game from the first minute and didnt give away feild position from stupid back to back penalties

Yeah true enough we did control the game basically from start to finish last night.

Bradfut made quite a few unforced errors last night, they looked like a beaten side after hock went in for his first try

There is no way you can justify the semi final loss to Les Cats on the Sallary Cap end of.

Talk to the players from that game. End of.

poor at best.

As i said earlier i think for a normally well rounded poster its a very suprising comment to make.

If a coach cannot get his players to come together for the biggest game in there recent history in the face of such adversity then it is a bloody poor show.

If anything the sallary cap issues should have galvanised them, its a very poor excuse for what was a very poor excuse of a performance.

Im not going to go round in circles over it. Thats what I was told at the time. Really it doesn't matter what either of us think about that.

I agree but to be honest it simply does not wash with me at all, nor would i expect it to with most other level headed people which is why i was suprised you said it.

Because it wasn't an opinion, it was based on what I was told. FWIW one would hope they culd have got their disatisfaction with the ownership over another way rather than a cup semi final.

It was though a performance to the same standards we have seen many many times over the last few years, with the same errors and the same tactical mistakes, they cannot also be put down to the cap can they?

I do not doubt it was what you were told, but i am suprised that you belive it was the case.

But like you say it matters not and there is no point dancing round in circles, we clearly have different views on Noble ones that hopefully i will be proven wrong on.

I hope so. I have shared some of your concerns re Noble, but I always felt he had it in him. The key now is consistency which we will only be able to judge mid season when hopefully we are top 3 and still in the cup.

Eddie & Stevo weren't even really paying attention when Bradford had the ball. Nor was I to be honest, t'was boring, just wanted them to give it us back!

Eddie was more obssessed with the bent over corner flag for most of 2nd half!

Eddie is getting more and more cringe-worthy

Hes had a couple of head in hands moments already this season

Stevo's constant "doesn't surprises me" comments e.g. Celtic vs Saints being 0-0 at h/t, did make me laugh I admit it.

Back on track, can't think of a single Bradford player though who was any good on Saturday. All said and done though, we were outstanding, quality stuff all the way through!

The man is a joke. His anti Wigan commentaries have been more and more apparent for the last couple of seasons, but his actual commentary with complaining about kits and posts is utterly stupid.