If you look at his average metres to carries stats this year and his tackles per game for the minutes he's doing they'd beg to differ especially considering he's only a baby in prop terms.

I've always thought he won't be at his best until his mid 20's at the earliest because he needs to add natural size but when that comes he'll be one of the top props in the game.

I'd also like to see Prescott given a go soon because he will want to prove O'Carroll isn't the only good young prop that we have.

Bigger than O Carroll, im not knocking the lads effort, but if you watch the game, he gets put on his @rse of just the one tackler far too many times and rarely punches hole's in other teams defence. Like I said though, 10/10 for effort.

His Ar$e just isnt hairy enough for me

Correct, we need a hairy d prop, not a cuddly toy.

Its true though Bill, we need a big leader in the pack who'll bang some heads and take us forward. Like Peacock does for Leeds, O Carroll has never punched a hole in a defence nor has he ever shown any real aggression, he's a worker, and thats it.

Thats what every team needs. No-one expects O'Carroll to be anything like Peacock, he is a completely different type of player.

Eamonn IMO has been the most consistent of our props so far, i know its early but its a cracking start. Hes not got chucked about like a rag doll like Fielden has sometimes, plays more minutes than Feka and Coley doesnt even deserve to get a mention.

I wish O'Carroll had Coleys frame he would be frightening

You're watching different games to me, or confusing him with Coley or Fielden. More often than not, O'Carroll's stature and technique enable him to land on his front, gaining him a quicker play the ball and coupled with his leg drive, he gains more yards in the tackle.

For the record, neither Platty or O'Connor used to break a lot of tackles.

Yeh he is much more stocky with his low centre of gravity. You cant have 5 Peacocks in your team.

But he hasn't, if O'Carroll played for another team would you say he was a player you would want Wigan to go out and sign ?.........I doubt he would even get a mention, look at Saints, Leeds and Catalan, last years top 3 their props are all much bigger than him, as others have said the lads got a heart of a lion, but the body of a koala bear, sad but true.

I agree with you

Thats why i said i wished he was the size odf Coley

I didnt say I wanted him to be Jamie Peacock, The point i was getting at is that we lack aggression in the pack. I dont expect miracles of him, he will take the ball in all day, but because he doesn't physically dominate, he takes ABSOULUTELY NOTHING out of the other teams forwards. Like somebody else has stated, if he wasn't at Wigan, would you want him? No.

But we have him, and with 3 other other great props he would be very effective.

I'm glad you don't want him to be Jamie Peacock. Peacock doesn't make as many yards per carry as O'Carroll does.

People wouldn't want him because he doesn't catch the eye or have a reputation. Wigan has spent several seasons buying eyecatching players with reputations and ended up in the 5h1t, while ignoring the likes of O'Carroll. Enough said.

Glad someone talks some sense.

O'Carroll puts so much work in he deserves to be getting all the praise at the moment.

People have been saying we should be looking out for a player like Lynch who does the hard work for long spells. What do you think OCarroll does? IMO hes does the similar role just with less experience due to his age.

And where people have got the idea he gets knocked back from, they must be watching a different game. He always barges the first man back, that or gets stopped as he hits the line, I dont know of him being trown backwards as some are trying to make out.

I can see him being another Sean OLoughlin while at Wigan, just because he doesnt score X amount of tries, Break through every tackle he runs into, set up every try at any chance, he will be branded as "Average" because there are too many fans who dont appreciate the amount of variation that is needed from player styles within a team.

Spot on.

The thing that makes me laugh when people say he's not aggresive enough or big enough is that he's only a young kid and to even compare him overall to somebody like Peacock just isn't fair( but the facts are that when you do he doesn't do to badly for such a young lad).

I don't remember Peacock being the aggressive leader of men he is today when he was 21/22. Those qualitites come with age and experience and i'm sure O'Carroll will start to display more of them as the years go by.

I could be wrong but in the reserves when i've seen him he looks a good, aggresive leader and can play for the full 80 minutes. He'll be doing that for the first team in time.

I agree but you cant deny Lynch wouldnt be a great signing to replace someone like Coley.

People also forget props hit their best years from 27-30 and we have 2 young props already cutting it in super league and more, do the maths

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Yes I would. Hard-working and give 100% effort every match which is more than we can say for Fielden and Coley.

Lynch would be my personal top prop target for next year. If i were Wigan i'd be getting into his ear now about what sort of deal they could offer him.

A front row of Fielden, Lynch, Feka and O'Carroll would be very good imo with Prescott also pushing for a place.

Or

Prescott, OCarroll, Lynch and Feka with Fielden pushing for a place.

Fielden will be on fire in 2010...............because he'll want a new contract.

And that would not surprise me at all, but would disappoint me . I really hope that wont be the case and if it is the club should look at giving shorter or rolling contracts .