If B.N. picks sam tomkins and or shaun Ainscough will he get the credit for doing so, as it seems to me he can't really win which ever choices he may make. I'm not B.N, biggest fan but if he does choose to play sam and shaun then it goes against his whole ethos of rugby league being to expansive , brave call either way for me .

if BN doesnt inc Sam Tomkins then he really has lost the plot

Agreed.

It's not worked so far leaving him out has it?

I thought he had a relatively quiet game but Eastmond was very poor.

He will go in at scrum half tommy going to hooker were he is at his most dangerous

If only that will be the case, let's hope it is

Sams in the squad

Tomkins should be left where he is for now.
Quins away is never easy and we don't want to give them extra targets to aim for than they've got already. No point either as we play Bradford next week and Leeds the following game and he isn't going to play in those.
Play him off the bench v Salford away the week after Leeds.
One or two may need a rest and that's when Tomkins should be introduced.
A good away game where we may well win and if we don't the boo boys don't travel so he won't have to put up with that on his debut.

as much as i want to see him play why have i got a bad feelin he will play locky at 6 in spells and tommy switching between 7 and 9

Our team is missing a stand-off more than anything else at this moment. He will do the job nicely.



We've already discussed this at some length on another thread. He can't play at Quins cos its tricky. You didn't think he should play against Cas cos they have a big pack (smaller than Salfords by the way), etc. Sam has been a target in every game he's played and he'll be a target in every game he plays for the remainder of his career, so should we not play him at all?



So if we look completely clueless in attack again this week, do we just hope for the best against Leeds and Bradford? This is the game to play him in because if he can come in and organise the attack and we look like we know what we're doing then he is a must for the Bradford and Leeds games.



Need a rest? FFS! Who would need a rest after 6 matches? They might be looking for new clubs or adjusting to a new coach but they sure as hell shouldn't need a rest. What we need is some organisation and inspiration.



There will always be some idiots who boo at matches. I understand their frustration but if they think it will motivate a team that is playing badly then they're morons. Booing an under performing team is like pouring petrol on a fire to try and extinguish it.

A coach can't select his side on whether or not they can cope with being booed off.

Starting the game?

I would not go that far but he appears to be our best option sadly, although i would perhaps like to see J. Tomkins given a run there, he is never a centre in a million years but given our current situation i think he would shore up the defence and also offer much more going forward.

Just thinking out of the box a little.

Or, play Bailey, a man who has played centre before, in the centre & leave Joel in the back row, where he is going well.

Why not put Lockers in the Joel to LF at least Lockers is willing to off load Bailey wont then i would start Sam at 6 and Tommy at 7 then move tommy to 9 and bring Smith off the bench to 7. That might work

6 Sam
7 Smith

9 Riddell

Tommy off the bench with Hock, Feka & Pryce. What impact!

sounds ok to me

Eastmond was playing with an undiagnosed dislocated shoulder at the end of last year.

i thought he did.
wasnt it one of his conditions upon taking the job??

ok, he was left with a lot of millwards squad, but its mostly his now.

He was taken on by D.W. And Uncle Mo not I.L.

would have to be Joel for me, to play Bailey at centre is a mistake, although he has played there early in his career, has not doen so for a good while and although his defence is good his lack of pace would be exposed and would be costly, he easily got rounded in the first game due to lack of pace.

I agree!

Sam Tomkins as been involved in one game against Whitehaven, yes he played well but its a big different from National League 1 to SL

I would have liked Nobby to had played Sam against Castleford but throwing him away at Quinns which is a difficult place to go isnt perfect scenario.

so i suppose when IL took over the conditions changed a bit.

nobby given choice by IL......stay in my terms , or go.

Where is the squad published , I cannot find it on any site?

I would think that about sums it up

In which case why didn't he go?

He's been tempted by offers from Leeds and Warrington during his time at Wigan.

As has been said on other threads, when IL first took over, Nobby had recently saved Wigan's bacon during a heroic relegation battle. He could probably have walked into one of several top coaching jobs after that. Not so sure now.