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| Quote ="superant1982uk"Aiscough was quality last night. My only problem with him is his height .'"
I don't think his height is an issue. There was one kick I can recall that he and 2 cas players went up for (Ainscough sandwiched between them) and Ainscough was the one who came down with the ball.
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| I just think he will be a target for other teams in that department with wingers such as Gardner at stains. Not knocking the lad its just a potential problem we may face there.
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"ainscough and prycey on the wings where fantastic- ainscough awesome
in the pack, ocarroll feka and tomkins where the only ones making any go forward, glad hansen got a bit more game time, felt sorry for hock because he could of caused some damage last night.
riddell shown signs of improvement aswell, he looked to take the cas line on, he is definately carrying a massive beer belly which makes him two stone overweight and unfit, and thus unable to perform.'"
edited for accuracy ....if last night showed anything its that we've got a number of so called star performers who either arent up to grade or too lazy/ unfit or unable to play....and a number of great looking promising youngsters who are not getting their places due to these players.
I dont think leneghan will sack noble just yet (i would but thats just IMO), but think unless noble gives the young players their heads, and drop his favourates, then leneghan will get rid quite shortly.
Its up to noble IMO, if he plays the right team we will win and win well.
For me only Richards, Feka, Leuluai, Carmont and possibly Roberts (only because Ive not seen much of him) deserve to start...the rest I would drop and bring in some of the promising young lads to replace them, how about this for next week? (we all know noble wont have the balls for it tho);
1. Richards (c)
2. Roberts
3. Thornley
4. Carmont
5. Ainscough
6. S. Tompkins
7. Smith
8. O' Carroll
9. Leuleui
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14. Feka
15. Hock
16. Fielden
17. McIllurum
For a start that squad has 8 wigan / 10 acadamy lads in the side!! For a start at least we'll get a team with a bit of pride!!!
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| The performances of Ainscough and Tomkins are the only positives to come of yesterday for you men.
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| Quote ="No1_Saints _Fan"The performances of Ainscough and [uTomkins[/u are the only positives to come of yesterday for you men.'"
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| Quote ="ian-m"I don't think his height is an issue. There was one kick I can recall that he and 2 cas players went up for (Ainscough sandwiched between them) and Ainscough was the one who came down with the ball.'"
But Cas scored their first try of the second half from a kick that he didn't collect. What Wigan may have to do is to swap Ainscough and Carmont around for the last kick defense plays, or at least give him better protection.
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| There were two kicks were there seemed to be no communication between Carmont and Ainscough. One Ainscough came up with the ball, the other Cas scored. A little more time together and this should be sorted.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But Cas scored their first try of the second half from a kick that he didn't collect. What Wigan may have to do is to swap Ainscough and Carmont around for the last kick defense plays, or at least give him better protection.'"
Like Endo man says the kick Cas scored from looked like a bit of confusion between Ainscough and Carmont. In my personal opinion a few more games together will iron out any issues (if Noble doesn't drop Ainscough). Overall a very impressive debut. Don't you dare drop him Brian
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| How about a backline of
Richards
Ainscough
Pryce
Carmont
Roberts
Ainscough would get necesary protection from Pryce
I would also like to see Roberts with a quality centre inside him
Now we just need to see Sam get his chance and move Tommy to hooker (his best position)
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"How about a backline of
Richards
Ainscough
Pryce
Carmont
Roberts
Ainscough would get necesary protection from Pryce
I would also like to see Roberts with a quality centre inside him
Now we just need to see Sam get his chance and move Tommy to his hooker (his best position)
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Looks good to me (or should I say for mine)
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"How about a backline of
Richards
Ainscough
Pryce
Carmont
Roberts
Ainscough would get necesary protection from Pryce
I would also like to see Roberts with a quality centre inside him
Now we just need to see Sam get his chance and move Tommy to his hooker (his best position)
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Myself and Rogues I think went with a similar backline whilst talking on the way back home. Phelps needs to be dropped IMO, he's wasted unless we have an injury to one of those players.
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| Quote ="Mini Rogue"Myself and Rogues I think went with a similar backline whilst talking on the way back home. Phelps needs to be dropped IMO, he's wasted unless we have an injury to one of those players.'"
Do you mean Phelps or Goulding?
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"How about a backline of
Richards
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Ainscough would get necesary protection from Pryce
I would also like to see Roberts with a quality centre inside him
Now we just need to see Sam get his chance and move Tommy to his hooker (his best position)
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He has a hooker? Don't tell the tabloids!
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"He has a hooker? Don't tell the tabloids!
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"Edited
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"Boo! Should have left it...we need all the laughs we can get!
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You not get to many games then
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| Quote ="kirkamania6"How about a backline of
Richards
Ainscough
Pryce
Carmont
Roberts
Ainscough would get necesary protection from Pryce
I would also like to see Roberts with a quality centre inside him
Now we just need to see Sam get his chance and move Tommy to hooker (his best position)
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I agree with Paddy at FB but i think Ainscough should be outside Carmont(even last night they showed signs of a partnership building )
Also i dont think Pyrce is ready to be a centre yet, every time he took a run last night be seemed to need treatment Once he gets back to full fitness then maybe.
I fully agree that tommy should be used as a second hooker, slow play the ball has been the problem this season and tommy will speed it up and do higham like scoots. Also his step can be used close to the line (as we saw last night)
I dont expect Sam to be the savoir of the team and get 5 tries again when he gets in the team(if he gets in the team ) but I just would him to show promise and develop into a super league player
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| id seriously be tempted to drop tim smith next week and play sam tomkins or at least have sam on the bench!
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| Quote ="Newton-Le-willows-Warrior"id seriously be tempted to drop tim smith next week and play sam tomkins or at least have sam on the bench!'"
Smith won't get dropped
Ainscough has shown that youth deserves their chance so hopefully Sam will get his chance
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"problem with ainscough outside carmont is it leaves the other wing extremely weak as we saw last night...goulding and pryce are shocking defenders and phelps aint much better when hes ther....sides are bound to see what cas did last night and will all be going down our right hand side to ship in points all season'"
What he sed
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"problem with ainscough outside carmont is it leaves the other wing extremely weak as we saw last night...goulding and pryce are shocking defenders and phelps aint much better when hes ther....sides are bound to see what cas did last night and will all be going down our right hand side to ship in points all season'"
Bailey has to play in that centre spot until we sort ourselves out. Forget Goulding/Phelps.
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| Positives????????
It only lasted 80 minutes!!! We already know that the kids play with pride, only a matter of time before we let them go!
We're e end of story.
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| Quote ="AJ"Bailey has to play in that centre spot until we sort ourselves out. Forget Goulding/Phelps.'"
do that and roberts will never get the ball...they'll be no point in having him there!!
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| Quote ="andyed-wiganrl"do that and roberts will never get the ball...they'll be no point in having him there!!'"
Exactly the same if Goulding plays their, but Bailey is a better defender.
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