Anyone feel Tommy's distribution is painfully slow when he's at first reciever? It gives the opposition defence so much time to move up and smother the line.

Tomkins to 7 with Smith, Lulu to hooker with Pig and Mcilorum on loan for a year, can't go wrong with that a ser

Obviously you can't rely on statistics because they suggest that Leuluai is better than Long which we all know not to be true.

How many World Cups has he won?

Did not realise Long was a world cup winner?

I've noticed this. You either get a scrum half who is ALWAYS first reciever and gives quick ball to the runner. They also have outstanding kicking games and lead the team around the field exceptionally well. EG Thurston, Prince, Cronk

OR

You get the strong running, try scoring. athletic stand off. EG Inglis (who plays stand off for Melbourne), Leon Pryce also falls into this category. They also have very good distribution and a decent kicking game. EG Barrett, Campese and Anasta (You do also get the one in a millions like Lockyer though

)

Smith definitely falls into the scrum half category

He isn't. Neither is Jonathan Thurston.

Smith really showed his class last night, hopefully he can continue this form into the season and start making the headlines for on field stuff.

Neither is Leuluai as a scrum half.

That wasn't the point of the conversation, was it?

I thought it was about Smiths tackling.

He isn't THE problem, he is one of many. One good game doesn't make him a good player.

What does it make him then? Smith was a bloody good player before he came to Wigan and still is, you don't win the Dally M award for being a poor one.

What does that tell you ?

That it has nothing to do with Wigan because he still is a good player,jesus wept

That Wigan have signed a very good YOUNG player.

Because no NRL would have him.

You just keep on signing the geriatrics.

We'll look after ourselves,

Ok then. Geriatric Gidley did alright last night.

Well you know what a $hit memory these Saints fans have!

So you're pleased that a 30 plus year old Aussie is keeping a young Saints player out of the team.

That Saint's haven't produced an International outside back since Adam was a lad.

That the only back they've produced for years is Paul Wellens, one of the worst fullback ever to play at International level.

But one of the best at club level, where it affects us.

And three ex Wigan academy players in the starting line up last night.

Where's this famous Saints youth policy?

Wellens, Armstrong, Graham, Roby, Clough.
Oh and Cunningham too.

Did Roby start?

Armstrong come on he'd struggle to get game at Pats.