Iam not saying sean is a bad player but take the captaincy from him and then he can just get on with his own game. He has no leadership qualitys same last year and the year before, next time you go to a match watch him, to the control of the team. When farrell was captain and Edwards they was solid as captain controlled the team and spoke to them if they did anything wrong.

Have you read any of the posts before you?

Yes I have read all posts on here. Iam just commenting on what I have felt for a good while, whilst he has been captain. Not just todays defeat, Iam not putting all the blame on sean, but really think he is a better player when the pressure is not on him as a captain.

O carroll was our best player today

I can't believe that after the garbage performances of a number of players in that team and poor tactics and management by Noble there is a thread criticising O'Loughlin's captaincy. Is this thread a wind-up?

As far as I could see he had a solid game and was more vocal than usual (which is what everyone wants).

Ellery Hanley in his prime couldn't have led that rabble out there today to success. The vast majority of that team today produced way under par performances and the tactics and team selection by Noble were shocking. (On team selection, I am assuming that Goulding wasn't fit for selection. If he was and Noble picked Phelps ahead of him then his judgment really must be in question. And given that Piggy is way off 60 min fitness let alone 80 min fitness, why no McIlorum?).

I'm getting tired of the anti-Lockers brigade. If we had excellent coaching and a first 17 of world class players then maybe we could look to criticise his captaincy at times - the lad's no Bell, Hanley or Farrell - but he is a good player who always seems to give 100% for his home town team and there are far bigger problems at Wigan we should be concentrating on. Frankly after today I feel sorry for him having to try to lead that shower.

Agreed. He was plenty vocal.

here we go again
to all these doubters who say he shouldnt be captain, watch the game he give everything today the shots he put in was brilliant. he bolloked all the players to move up with him in defence had a hand in the try but hes not wigan quality

Yet karl pryce is wigan quality

Sean is a excellent player but is no captain. There was some really bad players today and some good ones, we cannot take anything away from a fantastic wakefield display with john kear in charge. Why does sam tomkins not get a start at stand off?

so who do you give it to dont forget hes got to b wigan quality so pick wisely haha

Stuart fielden

Everyone on here wants the best for wigan rugby apart from some other supporters from other clubs. We are all intitled to our own thoughts and feelings about the club. At the end of the day lets just hope today was just a bad day at the office!!!!

These things are so predictable.

Mathers - Fair enough.

Next in line are:
Bailey is rubbish
Strip Lockers of the captaincy
Noble has done nothing for us.

I was hoping 2009 would lead us to some new topics from which to give blame.

ive read the first 5 or 6 posts on this thread and tbh im boiling with anger at the pish im hearing from most on the first page!!

Strip o loughlin from the captaincy, o loughlin isnt captain material, has 3 decent games a season, he isnt Wigan class yawn yawn yawn, weve heard it before, cant some people accept that Wakefield were too fast and too clever for our cold and strangely unfit side?!?!

Having got to my seat today and said hello to the new season ticket holders (i scared the last lot off

) i couldnt believe the anti o loughlin bull***t one of them was spouting, i mean, does anyone who slags him off actually watch the effin game???????? He is a class act and today you could see that!! He knocked on, missed a tackle or 2 but in his so called "good games" you will notice the same!
I for one cant wait for Hull next week and the rest of the away games of the season then i can chat to supporters that watch the game and dont sit at the JJB waiting for the slightest chance to get on the guys back! and for the clowns that booed the hapless Ritchie Mathers when he came back on i couldnt put on this board what i think of them



Keeping the faith in a big way

Dave

I'll talk to you big fella !!!!!!!!!

Typo sorted



I seriously don't get the lockers knockers, yeah he dropped the ball a couple of times but look at the positive things he does; tackles, hard yards, kicking and he set up our only try today i believe. He's not the one to blame for our performance today.

Sounds like it's going to be a long season at the JJB for you mate

Bailey should be no where near the team, you dont draft in an expensive aussie to play centre, find his pace was left in aus c.2004, then decide to play him at second row, a position he already have 4 or 5 stong candidates for.

send him home and free up some cash for a top centre now

I'll go with genuine thread.

He is entitled to his view, just like you are, but, speaking like you do is against the AUP, so get real.

Now THIS is a joke ? You Wigan supporters (SOME Wigan supporters) are the worst in the world of Rugby League.

Lockers is a fine player & a really fine person - pity so called supporters do not appreciate that. He would make a fine captain if he had the support of some of his team mates. He has just come back from a long term injury & what do you lot do ? Knock his confidence when there are another 16 players in the team.

Lockers deserves better - move to the Bulls i say !!

Fielden for CAPTAIN ??

By plenty.

1) he is a wigan player
2) he was picked, and on the pitch
3) he is (for now) the captain
4) he played today against Wakey

Do you want to rethink what you said?????????

Four times I counted. Given that he hasn't played a proper match for 6 months or so I think judgement should be reserved though.

just because he gives 100% and its his own town team does this mean he is captain material?
yes he is a excellent player but one game of being more vocal doesn't wash it why wasn't he vocal in all his previous games as captain where they just settling into the job games a captain should lead from the front be vocal barking out orders from hooter to hooter but no i wouldnt give fielden the captaincy he talks a wonderfull game in all of his interviews and where is this pace he's meant to have believe he can do the 100m in 9.98 seconds

I agree with the above lockers comment but who would you give the captaincy to?