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| he needs both tomkins and smith in the squad for halfback cover,even though i am led to believe that smith is causing lots of problems within the squad.
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| Quote ="jinkin jimmy"Your thoughts on Roberts' omission?'"
Its a dificult one, i am wondering if he has an injury given the fact Smith will probably not play again this week so is I would assume a bit of a redundant pick, given what i am hearing from more and more people regards his issues.
Something had to change down that side both Roberts and Bailey have struggled with the defensive structure.
I think had Pryce had more game time I personally would have moved Bailey to the secondrow or dropped him altogether and used Pryce as a centre, but moving him to the centre at this stage could be too much for him.
Tough choice to make and to be honest i am not sure there is a definative answer.
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| Please don't change the half backs AGAIN Noble
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| with that squad i think he will be resting eamon- the lad deserves it after the effort hes put in all year!
richards
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fielden
riddell
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hock will reak havock off the bench against them, start with feka so we have some go forward in the first 20!
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| I would start Fielden from the bench as a wake up call/ last chance to buck up before being dropped completely.
If memory serves me right Noble did this last year.
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| Quote ="Pugsley Snr"Please don't change the half backs AGAIN ! Lets have a run of matches with the same two in the middle running things, otherwise we are going round in circles.
How are they supposed to form a half back partnership when we change it every two weeks!
Tommy and Sam will be a great half back pair if we only let them.'"
Well said
Dropping a player we have signed on a four year contract does not sound promising
That said I would go for:
Richards
Ainscough
Bailey
Carmont
Pryce
Tomkins
Leuluai
Fielden
Riddell [size=59(McIlorum )[/size
Coley
Hansen
Tomkins
Lockers
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Michael McIlorum
Paul Prescott
Feka Paleaasina
Gareth Hock.
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| Quote ="Newton Pie"I would start Fielden from the bench as a wake up call/ last chance to buck up before being dropped completely.
If memory serves me right Noble did this last year.'"
He did it a couple of times (Leeds in the CC and Warrington at home in SL) there may have been a couple more by the way
This would be a good idea IMO
Wasn't the Warrington game the kick start to Fielden's season?
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| Quote ="Father Ted"Brian Noble has named the following squad.
Carmont, Richards, Smith, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Paleaaesina, Hock, Bailey, O'Loughlin, J Tomkins, Coley, Hansen, McIlorum, Prescott, Pryce, O'Carroll, S Tomkins, Ainscough.
So the possible team?
Richards, Pryce, Bailey, Carmont, Ainscough, S Tomkins, Leuluai, Fielden, Riddell, Hock, J Tomkins, O'Loughlin. Paleaaesina, Prescott, McIlorum, Hansen.
O'Carroll & Smith rested.'"
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Tomkins - Leuluai
Tomkins - O'Loughlin - Hansen
Fielden - McIlorum - Palaea'sasina
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| Pryce in for Roberts, Prescott in for Coley/O'Carroll. Otherwise same as last week.
Got told today Smith will certainly not play, naming him the 19 makes it appear a selection issue though rather than a discliplinary issue.
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| Quote ="AJ"Pryce in for Roberts, Prescott in for Coley/O'Carroll. Otherwise same as last week.
Got told today Smith will certainly not play, naming him the 19 makes it appear a selection issue though rather than a discliplinary issue.'"
Care to elaborate on his discipliary issues AJ?
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| Surprised to see Roberts left out, maybe he has an injury?
I'd go with:
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Riddell
O'Carroll
Hansen
J.Tomkins
O'Loughlin
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S.Tomkins/McIlorum - If S.Tomkins, bring Riddell off, Tommy at hooker, Smith at SH and S.Tomkins at SO and vice-versa when Riddell comes back.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"Surprised to see Roberts left out, maybe he has an injury?'"
I thought that but the site doesn't mention this when it usually does for other players. It just says: Quote Amos Roberts is not included in the 19-man squad to face Salford at the Willows on Friday night, but forward Paul Prescott is following his lay-off.'"
I think he has been dropped. He was poor against Leeds in terms of his positioning and failing to deal with the high kick but I think it would be a bit harsh to drop someone still trying to settle into the squad.
It payed dividends when we showed patience with Mark Riddell. I was hoping the same could happen to Roberts.
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| Quote ="cadoo"It payed dividends when we showed patience with Mark Riddell. I was hoping the same could happen to Roberts.'"
Gives Karl Pryce a chance though which is good.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"Gives Karl Pryce a chance though which is good.'"
Yes it is. I would have liked to have seen him given a shot at centre. He has said to Brian Noble that this is where he would like to be played.
But still I'm happy to see him in the side and fully fit.
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| Well, as long as Sam and Ainscough are still in there, Noble cant of gone much wrong.
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| Quote ="cadoo"But still I'm happy to see him in the side and fully fit.'"
Me too, the fact that he's playing is a bonus and in the pre-season matches his defence didn't seem to be up to SL level so it's perhaps better that he's on the wing.
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| Quote ="Ancient & Loyal"Me too, the fact that he's playing is a bonus and in the pre-season matches his defence didn't seem to be up to SL level so it's perhaps better that he's on the wing.'"
I only saw one pre-season match and that was against Warrington and he only made one defensive error in that game and that was from a high kick playing on the wing.
Didn't go to the others so if he made any defensive errors that doesn't relate to the wing position then fair enough.
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| Quote ="AJ"Pryce in for Roberts, Prescott in for Coley/O'Carroll. Otherwise same as last week.
Got told today Smith will certainly not play, naming him the 19 makes it appear a selection issue though rather than a discliplinary issue.'"
I have been told from a few people now it is more disciplinary off a few people who have good links to the club, which leads me to think Roberts could be carrying a knock.
I hope that it is a selection issue as you say as if it is not seems to me our coach is cutting his nose off to spite his face, in order to teach a player a lesson by naming him in the 19 with no intention of using him. That is just speculation though and in no way intended as a dig at Noble as it more than likely is not the case.
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| Quote ="AJ"Pryce in for Roberts, Prescott in for Coley/O'Carroll. Otherwise same as last week.
Got told today Smith will certainly not play, naming him the 19 makes it appear a selection issue though rather than a discliplinary issue.'"
you got told wrong. prescot in for either ocarrol or fielden!!! I know that for a fact
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| Quote ="jonh"I hope that it is a selection issue as you say as if it is not seems to me our coach is cutting his nose off to spite his face, in order to teach a player a lesson by naming him in the 19 with no intention of using him. That is just speculation though and in no way intended as a dig at Noble as it more than likely is not the case.'"
I agree, I think if it was a disclipline issue, he wouldn't be seen in the 19.
Quote ="Phuzzy"Care to elaborate on his discipliary issues AJ?'"
Someone may or may not have been naughty. Perhaps.
Quote ="converted warrior"you got told wrong. prescot in for either ocarrol or fielden!!! I know that for a fact'"
Listen sweetheart, where did I say I knew anything about prop selection. Now, back in your box.
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| Quote ="converted warrior"you got told wrong. prescot in for either ocarrol or fielden!!! I know that for a fact'"
Can't really see the logic in that, for me Prescott would replace Coley if anything .. they are the two worst first team props. Both Fielden and O'Carrol are far superior.
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| Quote ="AJ":234s54xhI agree, I think if it was a disclipline issue, he wouldn't be seen in the 19.
Just a suggestion but so as to keep the issues off the front page, naming him in the 19 with no intention of playing him keeps everyone with the impression he may well get a game when infact there is no chance. It seems odd he is named in the 19 but not selected and is neither included in the reserves given he clearly needs game time, there have been issues with him, i am just wondering if naming him in the 19 and not playing him is a way of trying to teach him a lesson whilst at the same time not raising suspicion in the media etc.
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| I'm actually pleased with the the 19 named to face Salford.
Roberts' heartless display against Leeds and lack of ability under the high ball couldn't have gone unmissed. (Remember this a player who has played many games as a FB)
On the otherhand I've heard good reports about Pryce and if he is willing to give 110% and is working hard then put him in.
For me Roberts has done very little to warrant fetching him from the other side of the world. His lack of effort is almost arrogant considering he knows there is competition for place on the wing within the squad (Pryce Roberts Richards Phelps Ainscough)
Well done Nobby.
Secondly well done for commending Prescott by awarding hard work by a place in the 19.
Funny how it's the Aussie's now suffering finding it difficult to get into the team.
-Smith
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-Roberts
No need to put Smith back in, he was one of our major issues that we've corrected, let move on giving Sam and Tommy more time to gel. McClorum doesn't desevere to be dropped, sends out the wrong message to him and the other younger players at the club.
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| Quote ="Farndog"Can't really see the logic in that, for me Prescott would replace Coley if anything .. they are the two worst first team props. Both Fielden and O'Carrol are far superior.'"
coley had a much better game than fielden last week. fielden did 4 carries all game and dropped one. anyway, prescot and coley are starting, fielden and feka on bench a little bird has whispered.
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| Quote ="Farndog"Can't really see the logic in that, for me Prescott would replace Coley if anything .. they are the two worst first team props. Both Fielden and O'Carrol are far superior.'"
coleys stats for the leeds team made him the strongest prop last week i am afraid to tell all you coley haters!!!
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