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| Quote ="ABP'"Despite being angry and embarressed I'm actually quite happy to get rid of somebody who brings the culture within the club down. I really hope Gareth Hock is made an example of and I don't care what he does with the rest of his life as long is it is nothing to do with Wigan Rugby League.
I'm sure the players will have had a team meeting and I hope the minority who may have the same urges felt embarressed, scared, frightened and paranoid about the whole situation. I also hope the academy and reserve teams have a serious dicussion and meeting in regards to the situation. Luckily, most of them will be level headed, sensible young professionals but Gareth Hock is a prime example of somebody who has come through the ranks of the club and is potentially going to ruin his life, self respect and credibility.
This could be a massive wake-up call to certain players and one huge step to improving the dramatically fading culture at Wigan Rugby League.'"
I do get the feeling that in time - something good may come out of this in respect of the Wigan club.
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| Quote ="Slugger McBatt"Cocaine is different to performance enhancing drugs and is more to do with stupid lifestyle choices than cheating on the pitch. You can't treat him more severely because he is a top player.
The RFL should give him the standard two year ban and then draw a line in the sand, so to speak, and introduce life bans from next year with more vigorous testing. If it discourages players from doing it, then in the long term it is in the players best interests.'"
Cocaine is classed as performance enhancing.
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| Quote ="Mark"He he.
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And your club will be first knocking on his door. All moral will be thrown out the window when the time comes that a international class player is up for grabs.
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| Quote ="Mark"He he.
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| What cheese's me off the most is that i've now got to go home and explain this c*** to my 8yr old now
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Gaz Hocks been stupid enough to get caught once, if hes been tested positive in his B sample aswell then hes even stupider than we thought. Would i be surprised to see him get away with this with a clean B sample? No but his reputation either way is done forever now.'"
the A and B sample are taken at the same time. If the A sample is postivie, they do a different more stringent test on the B sample.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"Cocaine is classed as performance enhancing.'"
Depends which girls you speak to.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"Cocaine is classed as performance enhancing.'"
Well it hasn't worked
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| Is this not the second time Hock has been found guilty of drugs offence?
I seem to remember him being caught before.
Could be wrong.
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| Quote ="Pemps"Well it hasn't worked
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| Quote ="pieman in yorkshire"What cheese's me off the most is that i've now got to go home and explain this c*** to my 8yr old now
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When he sees Hock sweeping the streets or stacking shelves and realises what he's lost it'll serve the youngster well.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Gaz Hocks been stupid enough to get caught once, if hes been tested positive in his B sample aswell then hes even stupider than we thought. Would i be surprised to see him get away with this with a clean B sample? No but his reputation either way is done forever now.'"
Think B sample is done at same time but is a check just to make sure there was no external contamination in the first test. I think.
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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"the A and B sample are taken at the same time. If the A sample is postivie, they do a different more stringent test on the B sample.'"
Ah right my error, hes going to get what he deserves then.
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| Quote ="king warrior"Carry on we can bring a few of your players up if you would like?'"
Would that be the player who you used to accuse but probably won't now seeing as he plays for you.
Only trying to lighten the mood, I hope it turns out to be a mistake as he's a great talent and will be a huge loss for Wigan and English rugby league.
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| So will the club sack him, or allow him to remain training with the team on an unpaid basis.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Gaz Hocks been stupid enough to get caught once, if hes been tested positive in his B sample aswell then hes even stupider than we thought. Would i be surprised to see him get away with this with a clean B sample? No but his reputation either way is done forever now.'"
How does a 'B' sample work though?
Surely they won't say to him now 'we're testing you again' as surely even Hock wouldn't be thaty daft to still be taking it!
I presume both samples will have been taken at the same time(after the salford game)?
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| Is this not the second time Hock has been found guilty of drugs offence?
I seem to remember him being caught before.
Could be wrong.
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| Is this not the second time Hock has been found guilty of drugs offence?
I seem to remember him being caught before.
Could be wrong.
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| Quote ="Paul2e"So will the club sack him, or allow him to remain training with the team on an unpaid basis.'"
Hasnt he got a kid? Im sure if hes found guilty hes going to have to find a source of income.
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| Quote ="Catalancs"When he sees Hock sweeping the streets or stacking shelves and realises what he's lost it'll serve the youngster well.'"
Suppose he'll get to spend more time with his spade in his allotment
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| =redThere's been enough warnings. You're gone.
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| Quote ="NickyKiss"How does a 'B' sample work though?
Surely they won't say to him now 'we're testing you again' as surely even Hock wouldn't be thaty daft to still be taking it!
I presume both samples will have been taken at the same time(after the salford game)?'"
You into a bottle labeled "A" and a bottle labeled "B". A gets tested immediately, B gets frozen. If A comes back positive, B comes out the freezer and gets tested.
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| Quote ="Wire girl"=redPlease don't quote idiotic comments'"
Very poor effort flower.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"Hasnt he got a kid? Im sure if hes found guilty hes going to have to find a source of income.'"
If he is positive and the B sample confirme then if you live by the sword then theresult is obvious.
A talented sportsman who is looked upon by kids does this well I have no sympathy.
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| Quote ="Paul2e"So will the club sack him, or allow him to remain training with the team on an unpaid basis.'"
Everybody deserves a 2nd chance(or 3rd in Hocks case if the old rumour was true) so people say so maybe the club will stand by him to a point.
The only way i'd want the club to offer him any sort of future would be if he agreed to go on some sort of rehibilitation course and agreed to be tested by the club on a random basis for the rest of his career(after his ban).
Unless he could prove he's totally clear of it i'd sack him and wouldn't offer him any route back and nor should any other club.
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