To be fair I didn't notice any around us. Just thousands of KR fans wearing Cherry and White

As an FC fan I am probably going to be more biased than anyone else on here but just pay close attention to what Burgess does again.

His fist is clenched and he lands his fist and forearm on the temple of Nsemba laid prone on the ground.

Now I’m not sure if Nsemba was already out cold or not but Burgess knew exactly what he was doing for mine and it was an attempt to take out one of your major dangers?

I won't comment on the Burgess incident, as most have already commented and I take the same opinion as the majority. In response to the SKY bias towards Rovers, its been weird living in the City (being a Hull fan), and the fanfare about Rovers, even schools doing Red & White days. Needless to say, my Son went in his FC shirt

The weirdest comments I saw about HKR were from Barrie McDermott, who compared them on Saturday to that Leeds side going in to it's first Grand Final and how it lead to a sustained period of success. I don't think they could be any further apart. I really like what HKR are doing, the owners are showing ambition and making good decisions but currently it's quite short term planning that is going on. That Leeds side was packed full of lads who had come through their academy and who were at the very start of long careers with the club. HKR have one player who has come through the ranks and are signing players at the ages of 36/37 years old. It all looks geared to getting success 'now' and unless they can really accelerate bringing some juniors through, I don't see how it can be sustainable.

I agree, in fact the only reason Mikey Lewis is in a KR shirt, is because FC had first pick from the the joint academy one year, and we went for Connor Wynne instead of Lewis as Radford was big mates with Wynne's dad!

KR have even tried to sign some of the Hull academy lads this season - Callum Kemp and Ryan Westerman who made their debut in the last game of the season. Despite our shocking season, FC are closer to emulating Leeds - with us trying to build up our academy kids into first teamers, supplemented with some experience. Be interesting to see which approach brings a trophy first!

No charge for Burgess, but a Grade E for Hiku for lifting Nsembas arm! FFS.

Grade B for Thompson for the late hit on Minchella

I suppose any admission that there was a serious incident which went unpunished on the field would be an indirect criticism of their Grand Final referee.

It doesn't matter. This kind of petty corruption used to happen all the time back in the glory days. It makes it all the more pleasing when we put their favoured sons to the sword out there on the field of honour.

I actually really feel for Hiku here. He was the first Rovers player to notice that Nsemba was out and looked genuinely distraught and concerned for him. I don't think that he or Batchelor did anything wrong. It was just bad luck, it happens in a physical game. Burgess, on the other hand did seem to me to be at least reckless in the way he went in.

How does Harry Smith pick up a 3 match ban for a forearm to a prone player, Hiku himself get nothing for similar on Field because "he missed" but Burgess gets nothing despite both being late and making contact?!?

Just checked the Hiku 'contact' on Nsemba. How is that a grade E? It's not like he's trying to drag him to his feet or anything. He just looks concerned.

MRP once again showing they're not fit for purpose, I'd hope if they're allowed to Wigan would put a word in on Hiku's behalf

Because he's not supposed to touch him whilst he's lying there prone
End of

And because grading is what it is because of the previous furore of people getting hysterical claiming that certain clubs got the bestnof the decisions those same people have now got "Consistency" and every player/coach knows that if they touch an injured player while he's down they'll get a Grade E
Because that's what grading does

Barrie's love affair with Leeds is ongoing. I'm sure he's forgotten that he ever played for anyone else.

Well I've always been taught that you check a person's airways are clear when knocked unconscious. That's a medical protocol and should supercede any rules pertaining to foul play. I guess common sense goes out of the window though when 'dems da rules'. Hiku is quite clearly checking Nsemba is ok, then signals for help. That should be the end of as you put it.

Anyway, we'll agree to differ on this one.

Spot on mate. Any bans out there should have been coming Burgess’ way.

But he's not qualified to check his Airways, he makes no attempt to go into any position to do any kind of medical check, I would assume because he had no intention of performing, quite rightly, any form of medical check. Contrast that with what the medical team did when they were onsite 3 to 4 seconds later, they didn't pull on his arm or shoulder?

Am i sat here slating Hiku, when he did show concern, no
But the players and clubs were told in 2021/2022 in no uncertain terms not to touch players lying injured or potentially injured. He did
The whole game agreed that the sanctions were grade E 4-6
Thats what theyve done

Just because the outcome was fine doesn't mean that what he did couldn't have made things worse, and that ultimately is what the rule is there for

If they dont charge him then the next time.someone does it they'll use this case as a reason why no charge should be raised and potentially that may not have ended as well as this case

Read paul Vaughans charge end of last year against Saints

How is that spot on when Burgess went into the tackle at the exact same time Hiku dripped on Nsemba with considerable more force, granted Busgies and does make contact with an open palm but I'd bet a hefty amount that Hikus contact made more of a forceful impact on a prone player, remember both of them could have just placed a hand on Nsemba and effected the tackle, fair enough they didnt, but just because Budgie runs back to the wing for the next tackle whilst the other 2 stay at marker I'm not sure what punishment for the initial drop he should face, especially in comparison with Hiku ?

Being an ex Wigan player, or leaving the club in what some deem was a poor way a couple of times doesn't immediately mean he's guilty of anything

Mate, I've already said I disagree with you. What do you want me to say?

I also don't appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I didn't say he was performing any medical checks. I said I was always taught to check airways, as a rebuttal to you saying a prone player should never be moved. That's not the case if they're knocked out or unconscious as safely making sure their airways are clear becomes the priority. Someone who has suffered a blow to the head and is potentially unconscious can be subject to many dangers including vomiting, swallowing blood from injuries to the mouth etc. You don't need medical training to look for signs of these. They are also far more likely than a spinal injury.

I only said Hiku was checking he was ok and did so without any risk to the neck or spine which, in my opinion (you're free to disagree) was the right thing to do and exactly the same as I would have done in similar circumstances.

Had he tried to rotate him or get him in a seated position or, worse still, lift him to his feet then I would agree with you. Lifting his arm slightly to assess he was ok was none of those things.

As for Vaughn, that was a completely different set of circumstances. He tried to lift him to his feet because he was annoyed at him. Not the same thing at all and worthy of a ban.

Lastly, how do you know he hasn't had any medical training? Many people in all walks of life do first aid courses. Being around a sporting environment would mean him being around injury protocols more than most. He might be studying physio or other related things for his post playing career. I'm not saying he has. I don't know. But neither do you.

Anyway, I'll say it again. We'll agree to disagree on this one.

Hiku makes no attempt to drag Junior up - which is where the bans should come into play. His actions don't warrant any sort of ban - anyone can see that regardless of the rule.

Burgess hitting the head of a prone player with at the very least no due care and attention and with plenty of time to assess the situation and not even make contact is ignored. It just makes the review panel look incompetent.

The letter of the law can't be used to support the first case then ignored in the 2nd. Similar applies to Lewis lifting Farells leg intentionally well above horizontal. It should have at least been looked at .

That should have been a yellow imo

Fair enough, I was probably being a bit harsh on Burgess, certainly regarding a ban anyway. I think Hiku sort of drops on Nsemba and, for me, doesn’t do too much wrong. In contrast, Burgess leads to his head, difficult to say whether or not it was with an open palm. It’s just too fast to tell.

Your last sentence had no bearing on what I previously posted.

Hiku appeal successful

Quite right too. Agree he didn't do much wrong in the spirit of the game.

Heaven forbid. It couldn't be that, could it? Mind you ... it would explain a lot.

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