I agree with Stu/The Reaper, I think the way Dodd plays fits with the style of play in the NRL. It will be interesting to see what Saints do to replace him. It is not easy when you lose homegrown talent.

There’s a lot of things hanging over his head at the minute. Is he the same player after the injury. Is he being contained by Wellens or has he lost all confidence and reliant on Lomax and Welsby too much. I think a move away from Saints may do him the world of good. I’d back him going over but I don’t think he has enough to cut it over I’d say the same about Smith too

Lmao. That put down is like as old as the internet. You made.an embarassing post that I laughed at. No need to get personal. Whenever anyone gets personal on the internet it’s because they got embarassed and have no come back. I expect that from the likes of zig and Jason. But not you. You’re better than that. Chin up champ!

It’s not personal, it’s truthful. You have a canny knack of posting crap and when you are challenged you crawl into your little shell rather than back up your idiotic comments.

All nonsense aside, if a grown man spends his time on rugby league forums simply looking for a rise from people, including from fans of the club he (pretends he) supports, I can only assume that in your personal life there are issues. Years ago I used to go to Latics games with a group of people and one guy would do the same and more often than not to his own supporters and when all came to all he had a breakdown. I’m not joking here btw, I hope you’re ok because the signs are worrying.

BTW-my post was spot on! If Saints play as they did in the first half at HKR next week, they’ll end up on the wrong side of a hiding, just as we did the other night. The way HKR played on Friday only adds weight to that opinion.

Not like you care what happens to Saints mind.

What I don't get about this guy is the pretence. Everyone knows what he is so why keep up the pretence? It's the behaviour of someone who is genuinely mentally ill (I'm not being insulting here btw). If he's lonely, come clean and start some meaningful conversations instead of repeatedly posting puerile nonsense. Surely no one but a child can gain anything from the type of ridiculous stuff he posts and he doesn't strike me as being a child. Maybe he is. Who knows?

The joke here is he could actually add to the conversation and give a different perspective but instead seems hell bent on some ludicrous "points scoring" that only actually exists in his own mind. You can't points score if no one takes you seriously!

Sad really.

If everybody just blocked him and stopped replying giving him the attention he craves he'd soon disappear

And soon reappear with a different username

The mods could just ban him from the forum...

A more appropriate one like tit?

Can't be having that, I like tits

Remember after Good Friday and all the Wigan fans were like “not bothered. Nothing to fear with regards this saints team”. Fast forward a few weeks and the entire league is saying the same about Wigan lmao

Remember, remember the fifth of November! Let’s see what happens come the end of the season. I will have you a 10p
bet that Wigan go further in the Challenge Cup than Saints

and double or nothing that Wigan go further in the playoffs, what do you say?

NK - It won't let me quote you for some reason.

You said nothing wrong at all mate - just the irony of you suggesting we might get a pasting at Hull KR and then Wigan going on to get one did make me chuckle.

As for Saints, we were utterly woeful against Huddersfield for the first half. Marginally better in the 2nd but not good enough at all. Hull KR would win comforably if we replicate that 1st half.

Our attack is horrible to watch at the minute. It's overly structured and overly premeditated. There is very little wiggle room for players playing with their eyes up and playing what they see. It's extremely dull. Luckily we concede on average 8 points a game so 2 tries is all we need to win matches. Not very entertaining but that's the fact of the matter currently.

YG- I am having the same issue. Regarding the Saints attack to be fair to Wello, this is a trait that started before he became head coach. It works fine if you can keep the opposition in check but when you get a Warrington situation there is no answer to the problem. For what it is worth I think Saints will beat HKR, it was their cup final last week.

The thing is with that style we've seen from Saints over the years is that it needs to be done with a certain aggression and intensity. I can just about stomach the repetitive "arm-wrestle" style when it's done at it's best because we absolutely suffocate teams and it's fairly ruthless. However what we saw against Huddersfield was that very one-dimensional style but done at snails pace, which suddenly makes it absolutely awful to watch and not very effective either.

Personally I would always taking winning (when it matters) over a swashbuckling, entertaining style of rugby. However, the minute that our boring style stops leading to us winning the big games, it becomes unforgivable in the eyes of fans.

As entitled as this may sound, as a fan of a club like Saints I expect to either be reaching and more often than not winning the big matches, or I want to go out in a blaze of glory with the team giving us a run for our money and some fantastic rugby to watch. To that end, if Wellens doesn't win the GF this year and he doesn't change our style, he should be looking for a new job by Christmas because he'll have delivered neither of the above for 2 years.

Aye YG, timing wasn't the best in a way but perfect in another. We weren't there at all mentally on Friday, with no intent in anything we did but it was very similar to how I thought Saints played that first half against Huddersfield. It surprised me more with Saints than it did with us tbh because clunky attack or not, Saints desire to defend, with great line speed and aggression is always there and it is what has taken them to the top of the league. Wigan on the other hand have nights like that in them and have done for a while. We had them last season at Magic, the week after at Saints, the home game against Leeds against 12 men and so on. I just thought that first half for Saints was probably the least enthusiastic I've seen a lot of the players in a good few years. I don't think they will but if they turn up like that at HKR but if they did, they won't find a guy like Bibby dropping ball after ball in good positions or a numpty like Connor putting on his one man idiot show. Add in the 5,000 refs in that touchline stand and you can't get away with a 40 minutes like that.

Really stupid but it will depend on which team starts the best. We looked shocking in that first half and we conceded early and it got the crowd up. From there we just couldn’t cope. We lost the ruck and from that the quick PTB they ripped holes in our un-prepared defence. Like you said NK reminder of the Magic fixture and the season opener against them last year. We have it in us to win that game we just weren’t on top and nothing seem to stick on the night. Only saving grace I can see is when we play in CC they’ll not be 100% sure of us as we were poor in this game. Also when did we stop kicking on the last? I think saints could just grind out a win here but I am not confident. That edge with Makinson and hurrell was unbelievably poor, I think I could have beat hurrell at times in that game. Think they’ll target that all night and if Bennison is FB he’ll get peppered with kicks

I think the Bennison experiement at 1 is over. To be hooked off after 20-25 mins or whatever it was shows how it clearly wasn't working and I would be amazed if went back to that.

Welsby will be at 1 and Lomax at 6. Then Dodd or Mbye at 7 depending if Dodd is fit.

I think this, in part, comes back to the 'who has most improvement in them' discussion that we had post Good Friday. As NK says, we have these performances in us. Leeds against 12 men last season being the most glaring example. We completely switched off in that match in a similar way to how we started the KR game and, in both cases, looked like we were miles off any silverware. However, we can also 'switch on' in spectacular fashion as we did following the CCSF loss last year. We then get performances like Catalans away, the subsequent unbeaten run and the WCC.

When we raise our game it's in both attack and defence and I think that's the difference. Saints can raise their game for sure but it's been defensively only for a couple of seasons now. Their attack never really seems to improve by anything significant.

Are both sides likely to be as poor as we were in the first halves of our respective games? The short answer is probably yes. It won't determine where the trophies end up though.

We have that lethargy, carelessness, arrogance or whatever it is in us, where we just don't turn up in games but it very rarely happens in a big game under Matty Peet, so I do think Friday can actually be a massive help when it comes to the cup semi. The players now know that they need to be at the very top of their game to win that game and any risk of us not showing up that day is pretty much gone IMO.

The Saint 71- James Graham disagrees with you about Dodd, it will be interesting to see who is right. https://www.totalrl.com/james-graham-cl ... nrl-links/

The Saint 71- James Graham disagrees with you about Dodd, it will be interesting to see who is right. https://www.totalrl.com/james-graham-cl ... nrl-links/

Could being the operative word there Zig

Be great if Dodd goes and turns the worst team in the league into contenders, the meltdown over the lump would be priceless

Quote ="Zig"The Saint 71- James Graham disagrees with you about Dodd, it will be interesting to see who is right. https://www.totalrl.com/james-graham-cl ... nrl-links/'" Perhaps but Graham has since shot down a journalist who thinks Dodd will not make it, he seems pretty confident.

Quote ="Zig"The Saint 71- James Graham disagrees with you about Dodd, it will be interesting to see who is right. https://www.totalrl.com/james-graham-cl ... nrl-links/'" Perhaps but Graham has since shot down a journalist who thinks Dodd will not make it, he seems pretty confident.